After my post on Herbalife and how unhealthy their products are, I got a lot of questions about Isagenix. I am pretty clear on eating whole, unprocessed, organic foods for optimum nutrition, but it seems that people are still taken with idea of meal replacement shakes and bars. Let me clear that up with an unbiased review of Isagenix.

It ain’t great.

While not as bad as Herbalife, Isagenix still uses some ingredients that I find questionable. If something was developed in a lab, not grown in nature, is unpronounceable or otherwise unfamiliar, do not eat it. Lasting health and weight loss does not come from a shake, a bar, or a “SlimCake.”

Below are common ingredients found in Isagenix products:

  • rancid vegetable oils
  • gluten
  • soy
  • agave syrup
  • isolated fructose
  • additives
  • fractionated palm kernel oil
  • corn
  • synthetic vitamins and minerals that are not bioavailable

Below is the ingredient list for the Peanut butter FiberSnack:

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Below is the ingredient list for the Slim Cake:

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This picture is blurry because I had to make it larger so you could actually see the ingredients, but these are the ingredients in the vanilla shake:

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Here are the ingredients in the black sesame shake:

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Low Heat Nonfat Dry Milk

Guess what nonfat dry milk is? A denatured protein.  It boggles my mind that fat is still vilified, that the healthiest part of milk is removed to make it “healthier.” There are several ways to make nonfat dry milk, and they all start with skim milk. From Butter Believer’s article on skim milk,

Before processing, skim milk has a very unappetizing blueish color, a chalky taste, and watery texture that doesn’t resemble natural milk at all. So, to whiten, thicken, and make it taste a little more normal, powdered milk solids are often mixed into the milk.

What’s so bad about powdered milk? Well, in the manufacturing process, liquid milk is forced through tiny holes at very high pressure, which causes the cholesterol in the milk to oxidize, and toxic nitrates to form. Oxidized cholesterol contributes to the buildup of plaque in the arteries, while unoxidized cholesterol from unprocessed foods is actually an antioxidant to help fight inflammation in the body. The proteins found in powdered milk are so denatured that they are unrecognizable by the body and contribute to inflammation.

“Natural” Flavors

The term “natural flavors” is loosely regulated. Technically, MSG and aspartame can be listed as natural flavors.

Fructose

I am not a fan of fructose. Yes, it is found in fruit and that’s okay. I don’t eat or recommend eating an excess of fruit, and therefore fructose isn’t problematic. While glucose is used by every cell in the body, fructose is only metabolized by the liver. Too much fructose is toxic to the liver, and there is generally an abundance of fructose in most diets (especially the Standard American Diet). An excess of fructose raises triglycerides and increases fat production.

Check out this nifty chart Dr. Mercola created regarding fructose consumption:

fructose
Dr. Mercola also states that,

Fructose is virtually identical to alcohol with regard to the metabolic havoc it wreaks…When you consume fructose, 100 percent of it goes directly to your liver to be metabolized; this is why it can be extremely hepatotoxic when it overloads your liver, just like alcohol.

Sunflower Oil

Keeping a balanced omega-3 to omerga-6 ratio is extremely important. An abundance of omega-6 fatty acids cause inflammation and wreak havoc on the body. Unfortunately, sunflower oil is extremely high in polyunsaturated fat and per one cup has 436 mg of omega-3 fatty acids, and 86776 mg of omega-6 fatty acids.

Fractioned Palm Kernel Oil

I actually support organic, sustainably sourced palm oil. It’s definitely a healthy fat. Fractioned palm kernel oil, however, is a whole different ballpark. According to Rees Moerman, product engineer at Spectrum Naturals, fractioned palm kernel oil is made by extracting oil from the pit using a gasoline-like hydrocarbon solvent.

Canola Oil

Canola oil is one of the most damaging oils on the market today. It is found in most junk foods and is normally used as a frying oil due to it’s high smoke point. Not only is majority of canola in the US genetically modified, it is extremely high in omega-6 fatty acids. This causes severe inflammation, especially if ingested regularly.

Also, unless expeller pressed (which the ingredient label does not specify), canola oil (as well as soy, corn and grape seed oil) is processed using hexane, a neurotoxin. According the the EPA,

      Hexane is used to extract edible oils from seeds and vegetables, as a special-use solvent, and as a cleaning agent.  Acute (short-term) inhalation exposure of humans to high levels of hexane causes mild central nervous system (CNS) effects, including dizziness, giddiness, slight nausea, and headache.  Chronic (long-term) exposure to hexane in air is associated with polyneuropathy in humans, with numbness in the extremities, muscular weakness, blurred vision, headache, and fatigue observed.  Neurotoxic effects have also been exhibited in rats.  No information is available on the carcinogenic effects of hexane in humans or animals.  EPA has classified hexane as a Group D, not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity.

Maltodextrin

Maltodextrin is a processed food additive, generally derived from corn. It is unhealthy.

Tricalcium Phosphate

This is just an example of the synthetics found in Isagenix. Is tricalcium phosphate inherently harmful? No. But does take synthetic vitamins, day after day, become an issue? yes. According to WebMD, tricalcium phosphate side effects include:

  • Lungs
    • Breathing difficulty (from inhalation)
    • Throat swelling (which may also cause breathing difficulty)
  • Eyes, ears, nose, and throat
    • Severe pain in the throat
    • Severe pain or burning in the nose, eyes, ears, lips, or tongue
    • Loss of vision
  • Gastrointestinal
    • Severe abdominal pain
    • Intestinal obstruction
    • Vomiting
    • Burns of the esophagus (food pipe)
    • Vomiting blood
    • Blood in the stool
    • Nausea
    • Decreased appetite
    • Constipation
  • Heart and blood vessels
    • Hypotension (low blood pressure) develops rapidly
    • Collapse
  • Skin
    • Irritation
    • Burn
    • Necrosis (holes) in the skin or underlying tissues
  • Blood
    • Severe change in pH (too much or too little acid in the blood, which leads to damage in all of the body organs)
  • Nervous system
    • Confusion
    • Delirium
    • Stupor (lack of alertness)
    • Coma

Synthetic Vitamins

For exmaple, calcium d pantothenate is a synthetic vitamin. Not everyone is going to have the same vitamin and mineral necessities depending on their diet. It’s irresponsible to subscribe everyone to the same vitamin and mineral content. Vitamins and minerals are synergistic and everyone has varying needs.

Like Herbalife, Isagenix may be an effective weight loss tool. So is anorexia. Does that make it healthy? Does that mean a person should use it to lose weight? No.

We need to stop looking for health in a pill, in a shake, or in any other quick fix. The only way to truly be healthy is to eat well, to eat real, whole, unprocessed food. I teach you exactly how to do this in my 21 Day Lifestyle Transformation.

Do not fall for meal replacement shakes, for protein bars, or otherwise gimmicky foods. These companies produce cheap, toxic products and push them off on people as healthy alternatives (to what exactly I’m not sure). Instead, watch my video on how to make a protein shake that is not only unprocessed but actually good for you.

As of November 2014, there are over 800 comments on this article. I will  now automatically delete comments that include or are similar to the following:

  • comments that are offensive in any way
  • name calling  (this tells me you have no better argument against me by the way)
  • calling me a liar – scroll down, I linked to my sources as well as directly to the ingredients on the Isagenix website
  • commenters that try to argue by providing “research” directly from Isagenix
  • commenters that accuse me of downing an MLM company just for being MLM, I never did this
  • and in general, uneducated comments that do not promote the discussion surrounding Isagenix and the ingredients found in Isagenix products

*It’s come to my attention that an external website that sells Isagenix says the whey they use is from grass-fed cows and that they do not use GMOs. I am suspicious of this for several reasons; the first being that this information is from a website whose intention is to sell this very product. It is not labeled as grass-fed whey. They also are no GMO-free verified and nowhere do they label their products as GMO-free. That being said, even if all of the products in Isagenix were 100% organic, the ingredients are still toxic. Soybean oil, gluten, fructose, non-fat dry milk, corn bran, etc. are not healthy.

**While Isagenix is not verified GMO free in the US, it is in Australia and New Zealand. They do say they do not use any GMO products. Though considering they do use soy, corn and canola, which are over 90% genetically modified, I am suspicious. Consider that there isn’t even approval for GM wheat and it was found growing in Oregon, then consider that over 90% of these crops are GM and often cross contaminated with non-GM crops.

An-Unbiased-Review-of-Isagenix

Sources:

http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/fibersnacks.dhtml
*FYI – things like non-fat milk, which is contained in the above, IS a denatured protein. This also contains soy.

http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/slimcakes_berry.dhtml
*contains wheat and soy as well as rancid vegetable oils

http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/isaleanshake_new.dhtml

http://www.epa.gov/ttnatw01/hlthef/hexane.html

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/fcn/gras_notices/grn000172.pdf

http://www.google.com/patents/WO2009088493A1?cl=en

http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/elements/ni.htm

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-fructose-bad-for-you-201104262425

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/09/09/ethanol-alcohol-and-fructose.aspx

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fats-and-oils/512/2

1,056 Comments

  1. Tanya Hicks Reply

    i am sorry – but this whole article is totally inaccurate. And what is your credentials as a nutritional specialist?

    Fact: Food does not have the same nutritional value in it any more, and does not meed the needs of our society.

    Fact: our bodies are not set up to remove the amount of toxins that are put into it from many different sources.

    If you are going to set up a blog you better know what you are talking about and do ACCURATE research.

    I will be ensuring that i circulate this blog to all of the health professionals i know to ensure that you are exposed for giving inaccurate information.

    You are the one that is very dangerous.

    • dani stout Reply

      What exactly is inaccurate about this article?

      This information was pulled directly from the Isagenix website. How can you even try to dispute that?

      I agree, our soil is depleted and therefore our food does not have the same nutritional content in general. This is why I buy local and organic food exclusively, and encourage others to do the same.

      We do experience a higher toxic load than any generation in history, which is why I also encourage safe and effective detoxification methods.

      I do know what I’m talking about and this information is accurate. Did you not clearly understand that this information is pulled directly from Isagenix.com?

      Please do circulate this to all of the health professionals you know. Any health professional that has the slightest grasp of nutritional knowledge will look at these ingredients and know that these products are toxic.

      Again, this information is not inaccurate, it’s directly from the Isagenix website and it’s what’s in their products, which most people neglect to read.

      If encouraging people to eat whole, unprocessed, organic, local and sustainably raised food is dangerous, then yes, I’m extremely dangerous.

      • Wonderful reply Dani!

        I have several friends on this crap and also Herbalife that I am trying to reform to eating real wholesome foods instead. So far their reason for “eating” this junk is that they are lazy and unmotivated to take the time to cook real wholesome food. Very sad but I will keep trying.

        My one friend “sells” Isagenix and is very gung ho and ra ra about their products and keeps asking me to meet with him to just try it. My answer is always No thank you I do not consume those type of “food” supplements. I get all I need from the real food I eat.

        But don’t you want more energy and be able to burn fat to lose weight? That is his typical question to me each time I say No. My response is I have more energy than I know what to do with and I am losing weight just fine on my work out routine and with the foods I choose to put in my body.

        Thanks again, I shared this with all of them!

        • Tara McNally Reply

          I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love making my own protein shakes with pure natural ingredients from my own raw milk and pastured eggs. Isagenix is awesome for people used to a McDonald’s diet and fast food. I consider Isagenix a stepping stone to health for these people, however I cannot promote it as I was raised by parents who taught me the pillars to health came from our foods. Most Americans did not have this foundation so I commend Isagenix as a starting point, it is much better than fast food.

        • Her response is below. I responded to her as you did with your friend tried with you. But this was not a friend I know in my own life. This was just someone that requested to be my friend on FB. She saw that we had a lot in common. She reached out back in November to have me call her and at least try to skype when I had some time. She had something to tell/talk to me about. I avoid it; because I knew/felt that wasn’t about being new friends…but to sell me on something. Shelah, I agree with you. Dani…you keep going with this. Just because Organic/GMO free is used on packaging/products…doesn’t mean it is any better for you. Will smoking organic cigarette be better for you? NOT!!!!

          **************************************************
          ” Hi Hanh, Yes, I am with Isagenix. I understand how you feel that way about shakes also. I was glad I took the time to speak with the formulator. He’s an amazing person and he really understands how to put whole food nutrition into a shake. He explained to me how our body has to actually liquefy the food we eat and break it down into it’s most basic components. He decided to put together a shake that already had all the nutrients our body needs, broken down so our body does not have to do the arduous task of digestion. It tastes really good and I think that if you looked into it very closely you would find that like me, you would be very pleased. If you know anyone who would be interested in something like this and you referred them to me, I would truly be grateful. http://www.isagenixhealth.net
          That link is the science with professional articles. It is not a diet but rather a whole body nutritional cleansing and replenishing program.
          It is organic, non-GMO, very high quality, taking toxins out, rather than putting them in. Best to you!!”

          • “the arduous task of digestion” is something our bodies is meant to do. Digestion is part of your metabolism, which keeps your cells happy.

          • Stephen Scott

            Why do we have molar teeth, maybe not to chew as a carnivore but when extremely needed is handy. And oh yes, that leaves grains and seeds to chew so that they naturally digest in our, oh yes, digestinal tract. If you want to be like an invalid old person and be on fluidized food for the rest of your life, ok then, and oh what are tastebuds for?

          • If you really must consume shakes to help your body digest it’s food then get a blender and make Green Smoothies.
            You could buy a Vitamix and as many organic Fruit and Veggies you liked and it would still be cheaper than Isogenix.

          • Barbara

            Hi Hanh
            Im looking into Isagenix & have a few friends enjoying it with what seems to be great results….. Is there any evidence Isagenix is Organic Non-GMO??
            Kind Regards
            Barbara

      • Leisa Roder Reply

        You have listed the ‘common ingredients’ which you are objecting to but most of them aren’t even in the ingredient list of the products you pasted up… wow.. and like Tanya said, what are you credentials? You have said you know what you are talking about but you don’t back that with any credentials or evidence. Isagenix is very carefully formulated by scientists and doctors and careful research is conducted. It looks to me like you clearly have some info about eating whole foods which is great, but you are just against shakes… and I totally agree, I think shake diets are very bad as they lack nutrients and are filled with rubbish but personally and professionally, isagenix has been clinically proven and it works and the research shows this clearly if you look harder and people look into it themselves thoroughly, not just go off a comment that anyone can make. Whole foods are great, but why are we putting on weight on whole foods if they are so good for us and you said yourself the soil is depleted. I wish you well in your journey and hope you are able to look further into this with an open mind.

        • dani stout Reply

          Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

          Please explain how soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate, etc are nutritionally beneficial?

          Also, my credentials are directly listed on my “About” page.

          The ingredients I object to are directly on their ingredient list, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

          • Kyle Baker

            I am guessing Tonya Hicks and Leisa are distributors. I am personally a fan of supplements but there are so few that are actually decent.

          • http://www.isagenixhealth.net/dont-let-these-5-ingredients-spook-you/

            http://www.isagenixhealth.net/whats-in-my-top-5-ingredient-questions-explained/

            http://www.isagenixhealth.net/what-are-natural-flavors/

            http://www.isagenixhealth.net/7-ways-new-isalean-shakes-are-more-nutritious-than-ever/

            Is THIS enough proof for you? I have researched for a year now the food I eat and the nutrients I was not getting that were leaving me feeling bloated all the time, fatigued, full of inflammation. Isagenix was a life saver to me!! Don’t bash anything you have not tried or experienced. Just sayin……..

          • dani stout

            I think this is about the 73rd time I’ve said this to an Isagenix supporter – using articles from Isagenix to back up your argument is illogical, biased and ridiculous. You know Monsanto has a ton of reading and studies on why GMOs are healthy. It’s in the best interest of the company to promote their products, not provide actual scientific information.

            I highly doubt that you have researched food for a year, if this were true then you’d likely have even the slightest grasp on nutrition.

            I don’t need to smoke crack to know it ain’t good for me.

          • Well done Dani. A great article. I love all the “where are your credentials” talk because that’s the goto for people who are underqualified to give people nutritional advice but are pushing shit products.

            Dani doesn’t need credentials to read a label Leisa and if you weren’t so brainwashed by the whole “we’re a family that want to be free and healthy and live life crap” then you would realise this too. Recently my girlfriend who works as a physiotherapist at a top clinic in Melbourne and knows a fair bit about Nutrition was pushed samples of these products by one of probably 10,000 ‘unique’ sellers in Australia . She mentioned she had fructose intolerance as diagnosed through thorough testing and the seller said “oh you’ll be fine there’s no fructose in these” she didn’t even know what was in her own products. Stop being little passengers in a world where you can create your own path and get some thoughts of your own Leisha and crew. Its a shit product on the same lines as progenex and herbalife.

            In regards to Lorraines comments, sorry Lorraine your obviously new to the internet as those websites are set up by isagenix. To combat people who’ve can think for themselves. Hence the website url addresses.

            “oh look at me! Im a manager and my own boss!, yay I get additional income and I can work from home, selling shit products to people and feel like im helping them”

            Get a life people, create your own products and businesses, and actually help people if that’s what you want to do

          • Dani, if you would take time to actually read the Isagenix articles you would discover that each article (I am not referring to the marketing material) is fully backed by highly acclaimed and respected scientific, medical and nutritional research and professional publications. Isagenix did not appear from nowhere based on a whim or fancy. It is proven, tested by third party, and has reputable, fully backed by respected doctors and others in all fields of medicine.

          • lol ok after reading your about page, this article all of a sudden became A BIASED review of Isagenix

          • I’ve never tried isagenix, but this is ridiculous.

            Would you eat something that included dihydrochalcone glycosides as an ingredient? Or cholorogenic acid? Or p-coumaric acid? How about phenylalanine?

            If you’re eating apples or oranges, you’re eating those ingredients.

            (And how are corn and agave NOT nutritionally beneficial? They’re both plants.)

          • dani stout

            Did you not read the article or were you not able to comprehend it?

            The ingredients I have an issue with are not the scientific names for naturally occurring components – I have an issue with the synthetic ingredients. I made this abundantly clear.

            I also think I pretty clearly outlined how corn and agave are not healthy. But using your logic – poison ivy is a plant too, it must be nutritionally beneficial!

          • Tim Edge

            Im new to Isagenix. Im 20 days into the 30 day cleanse.
            Im away from home for 13 hours a day with work (on an island which I have to catch a ferry to and from), I have a dog who deserves some of my time daily, like to keep a clean house, have clean clothes every day, get some exercise daily if I can, and I don’t have a wife to cook for me like most of my work mates do. So far with the cleanse, I initially dropped 4kg and 3 belt sizes, (1st time under 110kg in 10 years), am sleeping better, given up coffee, thinking clearer, no more inflammation in my joints, and I now have the energy to: work out more often (I’ve put 1kg of lean muscle back on bringing weight loss back down to 3kg), give my dog more exercise, and most importantly, I now have the energy and the drive to plan my main meal for the day with the absolute focus on the very REAL and natural nutrition you imply from organic produce. I’ve known about good nutrition at least at a basic to intermediate level for some time because I care about my health and I realise that only I am the authority with which my life and health depend. Intimately. But that doesn’t mean that I am immune from the pressures of life, long hours at work, bills to pay, adventures to plan and pay for, etc. I am human. And so we all are. All so very different in our experiences and subsequent characters, yet so very much the same in our inherent nature.
            I found myself about 25 days ago, being faced with the choice of trying Isagenix. I looked into it. I did some research. I was discerning. And given that those who introduced me to it were close family and I had been watching their results closely and was actually impressed, I decided to give it a go. But lets be clear about something: I owned that decision completely. It was not sold, because I will not be sold to. Now, 20 days in, so many of my hopes and dreams are back in gear and the adventures I’ve been hoping and praying to be part of are within my conscious control. Isagenix didn’t do that. I did. I saw Isagenix as a tool and I realised that my application of that tool would be paramount to the success or failure of the venture. Sure, I understand and appreciate that some of the ingredients are suspect. But so is the fluoride added to water supplies that is still mandatory in most provinces and states of New Zealand and Australia where I’ve spent the majority of my 39 years. And we know what that stuff does to our pineal gland… right? And what the pineal gland does for us and how important latest neurological studies are suggesting it is to our overall experience as “living systems?” I really hope thats a bandwagon those of you with “credentials” are on. I don’t mean that disrespectfully, I sincerely mean that.
            We have so many toxins, processed food like products, chemicals for this, chemicals for that…
            Heres a statement for you: We are NOT what we eat. We are what we ABSORB.
            I am nobody. I have NO “credentials”. Simple as that. I am nobody. No degree, no diploma, no “reputation”.
            But when I consciously choose to travel to far away countries, be accepted by the indigenous people and accept them in return, who hold ancient knowledge and wisdom for the future betterment and evolution of our species, do service to a community, to be part of a combined and soul felt movement for love, understanding, acceptance and peace, then I am SOMEBODY.
            Isagenix plays no part in that previous paragraph, other than it has proven to be a useful tool which has directed my gaze back towards the sun and all its vibrance.
            I am alive again. I feel it again.
            I wont use this tool forever, but I may use it again on occasion.
            Lets not forget, that we are talking about life here. Not just mine. Not just yours. Not just nutrition. We are what we ABSORB. Psychologically, emotionally, spiritually, AND nutritionally. And those things are all inherently interrelated. Our spirituality can dictate our emotion. Our emotion can dictate our brain chemistry. Our brain chemistry can dictate our body chemistry which in turn can dictate what nutrition we absorb. And ALL of those can dictate our psychology. And round and round we go…
            This isn’t so much about “life” as it is about LIVING. And living is a movement. Not a set of static states dictated by those with “credentials”, or by a scientist who “specialises” in one of those static states that bares no awareness or observation to the whole living system.
            If we are going to talk organic, why just nutrition? Why not address the organics (or lack of) of the most influential environmental variable there is: Our thoughts?
            If I listen to him… believe her, am I not stepping away from the true organics of original thought? Do my thoughts not then become a merry-go-round of “what somebody else said?”
            I am not evolved. You are not evolved. “WE” are not evolved. “WE” are nobody. I am nobody. And who I am is not important to YOUR experience. If you are curious about who I am, then its only a matter of interest isn’t it? Like if you are hungry and you go to a restaurant, standing at the window and watching me eat won’t ease your hunger. Will it? You must go “within” and partake.
            So I wonder how long we carry on with all these kinds of “comparisons” of each other. I am this… you are that…
            At the end of the day, does it really matter to the individual who is thinking organically in a morally inorganic world how many people signed up for Isagenix today???
            Are there not more pressing issues in the world today that deserve our upmost attention??? Our organic thought and acceptance that there is only, has only ever been, and will only ever be ONE authority on these things? The authority that ONE has in regards to the ONLY relationship that ONE ever has? The ONE relationship with the entirety of the earth and every form of life upon it?
            So, I am going to finish my 30 day Isagenix cleanse (with questionable ingredients), apply intent towards this “tool” being a useful ally towards the transition to a healthier, happier, and more heartfelt lifestyle. And this coming November when Im sitting on Mother Earths bare and natural surface in the Ecuadorian Amazon under the “Eyebrows of the Andes” with the Secoya Elders, learning and experiencing true rainforest medicine and ancient wisdom in a place where the word “organic” does not exist, while the smoke and destruction of industry that threatens the survival of our very race grows ever closer decimating all in its path, I will think. Organically.
            And I guarantee you this: Not one iota of an “erg” will be energetically transferred towards wondering if signing up for a 30 day cleanse with Isagenix was a good move or not. I may make use of it again. In fact, I will likely continue with SOME of the products for a while. Might even sign a few people to get my adventure fund up. What do you know… Better health, better lifestyle, AND wealth creation…
            All depends on how you look at it now doesn’t it?
            Hmmm… The Elders are getting pretty old. I think they are having trouble rowing up river these days to fish for their dinner… I wonder if I can afford to buy them a small outboard motor? Maybe I can. Maybe.
            With love and respect to BOTH sides of this debate,
            Tim Edge
            FB: Timothy Turtle (Edgey)

          • I dunno even know where you pulled the ingredients list from! It’s so inaccurate. So what if you are a holistic coach it doesn’t mean anything. First of, your source is not accurate. I am into supplements and truly believe in whole food and clean eating. However, Isagenix is by far the safest when comes to Herbalife, Shakeology, Nuskin, Usana and Unicity when comes to toxicity and percentage of chemical compounds. Like you mentioned, US soil is depleted so where else do you get the nutrients; plants, fruits? LOL

          • dani stout

            I linked directly to the website where I got the ingredients from. You really should at least be familiar with the ingredients in the products you’re peddling.

            And yeah, it’s completely CRAZY to think you can get vitamins and minerals from actual food!

          • Francisco

            Dani,
            For those of us who are open minded and have been through the ropes on the MLM world, and are willing to do the research it takes to understand how health is achieved, you don’t need to state your credentials. Irregardless of them, you are stating your opinion based on the ingredients listed on the label. So don’t you worry about telling me who you are.
            You’ve done and beautiful job at breaking down the label in a way than nobody can dispute. They can argue. But never dispute because is in the label.
            Again,
            Thank you

          • A friend of mine forwarded me this article… and I have to say… Kudos to you for writing this ….many of my thoughts, exactly. I don’t care if you were an art teacher, writing in your spare time… Your information is very accurate.

            Good luck to you, I appreciate your candid-ness…

            Best,
            Dr. Ashley

        • Geoff Finch Reply

          Hey Leisa,
          Just because scientists and doctors research and back a product, does this make that product safe for consumption? How does business effect their input and work on synthesizing and endorsing certain ingredients? Do you think it’s possible they could be PAID to create a COST EFFECTIVE product which may APPEAR to be healthy to the lay man? How does a magician perform a “trick?” It is likely they are “tricking” the audience into believing the “magic” they perform is real. The fact that it is a TRICK, as in not a real magical event, does not make the field any less marketable and profitable. Here is a great little read about a product likely created by scientists, and quite possibly endorsed by doctors at some point:
          http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/03/gnc-and-jack3d-supplement-company-sued-for-mans-death/
          This case is a highly unfortunate example of a person who believed in a supplement, and at no fault of his own, fell victim to the health detriments it caused. Do you think he would have been better off if he had an un-credentialed friend who recommended he stay away from the product, or maybe even recommend he eat whole foods and unprocessed foods instead? I think so.
          Thanks,
          Geoff

          • Geoff Finch

            Oh yea,
            Before I forget, I think Dani IS certified. By Blue Heron. Since 2012. Her about page can be a valuable resource in these trying times…

            -Geoff

          • Exactly! Remember that doctors used to promote smoking cigarettes too.

          • I love when they say it’s backed by Dr.’s or Scientists. So neither have ever been paid off to make it appear different. Isagenix is now a multi-billion dollar business and can pay well. I believe Michael Jackson paid a Dr. to do things for him as well….how did that work out for him?

          • Very well said Tim Edge. Opinions and even some form of clinical information is fine, but at the end of the day what gives anyone the right to chastise others for choosing to walk a certain path in life? Oh and yes, medical practitioners can support, research, recommend and endorse all they like, that didn’t help the sufferers of thalidomide did it?

        • Do you people even listen to yourselves?? “This stuff is formulated by scientist and doctors”. ” Our bodies are made to get rid of the toxins put into the foods we eat”. There couldn’t be a more ignorant statement made. The doctors, government, and scientist are all in this together with the pharmaceutical companies and food industries. This is one way they control the population and make money in the process. Don’t y’all watch the drug commercials. All of the synthetic crap they make is what’s causing heart disease, diabetes, cancer and more. They all make money off the drugs that they sale. More people should listen to bloggers like this on eating healthy organic whole foods. You’d spend a lot less time at the doctor if you did. Our government does not care about “We The People”. The last 7 years should have proven that much. All they are out for is the all mighty dollar.

        • Scientists who develop many of the drugs that are causing serious side effects, including death, are making claims of the safety of the drugs they develop…they even once claimed that cigarettes were “safe”. Point is, just because it’s stated by scientist doesn’t mean it’s true.

        • You sell Isagenix, don’t you? I believe that answer is YES!

      • Dear Dani,
        ALthough I appreciate a well written article with information about good and bad clean healthy eating, I have to disagree with your blog. I’m not too sure which isagenix website you visited but your information is inaccurate, and you do not have a referenace to and actual isagenix website in your resources. Isagenix is SOY FREE, and GLUTEN FREE. I just think if you are going to give people advice on health and wellness then you should do your true due diligence in your research. If you did get this information straight from isagenix.com i would like to know where? I just searched their website and could find nothing that said they use soy or gluten. I also read this on their website as a straight descritpion copy and pasted “Available in Creamy Dutch Chocolate, Creamy French Vanilla and Black Sesame, our shakes are also low in saturated fat, sodium and cholesterol with added enzymes that break down carbohydrates, proteins and fats to maximize the absorption of key nutrients. What’s more, IsaLean Shakes contain 24 grams of high-quality undenatured protein from New Zealand dairy cows that exceed USDA organic standards. Best of all, at only 240 calories, 6 grams of fat and less than $3 a meal, an IsaLean Shake is the perfect, well-balanced meal, no matter your lifestyle.

        NEW IsaLean Shake in Black Sesame can be enjoyed hot or cold. This savory, flavorful shake is a terrific gluten-free complete meal in a glass (or cup).
        Myo–IsaLean Complex is an undenatured protein blend sourced exclusively from grass-fed dairy cows not treated with hormones or antibiotics and raised on the pristine pastures of New Zealand. Minimally processed and the purest you can find, our proprietary, cheerful cow certified protein blend features:

        A higher whey-to-milk-protein ratio comparable to the nutritional value of human breast milk and clinically shown to help you stay fuller longer, support muscle growth and maintenance and healthy blood sugar levels
        A milk protein concentrate vs. calcium caseinate as a source of protein, which increases the concentration of branched-chain amino acids to fuel muscle growth and create lean body mass
        Increased amounts of lactase make it easy to digest” (Source http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/isaleanshake_new.dhtml )
        It also clearly states on their website that their products are SOY and GLUTEN FREE.
        you can find more scientific research and ingredient breakdowns here http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/isagenix_science.html.
        Although I do not believe everything I read online, I feel that if you have a large following of readers you should really be providing them with true facts. I did like the info your wrote about Fructose, and I understand you are trying to promote clean healthy eating of real food without the use of meal replacement. I myself am an organic, all natural food lover. I am an isagenix user also though. Their company provides me with the latest information of GMO labeling News, Organic food choices, and healthy alternatives to feed my family. It’s not just about the shakes I want to make that clear, we learn how to eat clean, think clean, and COOK clean. I am not a diet fad girl, this is truly the only thing I’ve ever tried for weight loose and it definitely works, but it’s been so much more than that for me.
        As I said, your article was informative, but inaccurate and I would really encourage you to revisit your sources and revisit the ingredients your wrote about.

        Have a great day,
        M

        • dani stout Reply

          I suggest doing more research on Isagenix products, that maybe doesn’t come directly from Isagenix themselves. Of course they’re going to promote their product to the fullest extent; therefore linking to Isagenix to prove your point, doesn’t really prove your point.

          Furthermore, Isagenix DOES use gluten and soy, so you should definitely be more aware of these products.

          The ingredients I listed in the article were pulled directly from the site. See here:

          http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/fibersnacks.dhtml
          *FYI – things like non-fat milk, which is contained in the above, IS a denatured protein. This also contains soy.

          http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/slimcakes_berry.dhtml
          *contains wheat and soy as well as rancid vegetable oils

          http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/isaleanshake_new.dhtml

          As I said, my article is 100% factual and you actually need to check the facts. These are the ingredients that are listed directly on the site.

          You have a great day too,
          Dani

          PS- some other quick points:
          It is literally a fact that fructose is toxic to the liver, it’s fine in small doses that are naturally occurring, like fruit.
          Isagenix is not a certified GM-free product, definitely not in the US.

          • You are incorrect, Dani, in some of your conclusions regarding Isagenix. However you are entitled to your opinion, as long as you disqualify your statements as your opinion and not a statement of fact.

            There is only one Isagenix product with gluten which is the SlimCakes. Gluten is not toxic and only a problem with people who have an allergy to gluten. SlimCakes are not really a part of any system, just offered as a healthy snack alternative.
            There is absolutely no Soy protein. They use soy lecithin as an emulsifier…Lecithins are oily substances that are naturally found in plants (soybeans) and animals (egg yolks). It is extracted for use as an emulsifier in many prepackaged foods such as ice cream, milk shakes and chocolates. As an emulsifier, it helps keep fats and water from separating and produces smoothness in our IsaLean Shakes and IsaDelight Plus dark chocolates.

            Far from being a “toxic sludge” as suggested around the internet, the phospholipid is an important part of all cell membranes. It plays a role as a component of bile in the small intestine and is a major source of choline in the diet, which is vital for proper metabolism of fats in the liver. It’s also a precursor for acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter in the brain. For these reasons, you may see lecithin available as a supplement in natural health stores.

            The non-GMO soy lecithin found in IsaLean Shake is ultra-purified so it’s free of any proteins or contaminants. Soy lecithin doesn’t contribute any amount of soy protein (so it is hypoallergenic) and it doesn’t contribute any soy isoflavones (which are phytoestrogens). These are eliminated through purification and should not present a concern to those needing to avoid them.
            I did get my info from Isagenix, but they do like to clarify why some ingredients are included. Here the complete article….
            http://www.isagenixhealth.net/i-read-that-blank-was-bad-for-you-why-do-you-use-it-as-an-ingredient/

          • dani stout

            Gluten is toxic to all people, especially modern-day gluten. You need to do actual research on gluten.

            I never said there was any soy protein, there is soy lecithin. Soy lecithin is still a processed ingredients, and soy is still processed using hexane, A NEUROTOXIN.

            You’re right about fat, roughly half of cell membranes are made up of SATURATED FATS, not rancid polyunsaturated fats from vegetable oils.

            I’m not sure who sold all of you guys on the “soy lecithin is purified not processed” BS, but it’s seriously ridiculous.

            Like I’ve said before, using Isagenix articles to support Isagenix is not legit.

          • There is a difference between soy lecithin and soybean. I’d suggest you research, and not all soy is bad for you some of the time. I disagree with your fructose assumption, as you give no better alternative especially since the only alternatives on the market are much worse for you. I think you should do further checking beyond reading a label. The company holds regular universities in which you can personally meet the scientists and physicians leading the way in bringing better healthy choices to our world. Reading a website really only gives you a glimpse. There is much, much more. That’s why you need a coach, or someone who has taken time to further their understanding. The very things you mention, are exactly what Isagenix is not. It is too bad that you are keeping other people from experiencing something that could change their lifestyle from bad to good.

          • dani stout

            Did I say there wasn’t a difference between soy lecithin and soybean oil?

            It’s not a fructose “assumption,” it’s a fact. I also clearly say that raw, local honey is a better alternative.

          • fyi – it is NOT ‘literally a fact’ that fructose is toxic to the liver – unless you mean in the same way that anything and everything is toxic to any tissue (in excess). So to single out fructose as a bad ingredient is quite misleading and inflammatory.

            Fructose is metabolized in the liver (as is nearly everything you put in your body), but a multitude of metabolic enzymes modify the sugar (as in any metabolic pathway) to trioses identical to those found in the glycolytic pathway (see ‘glucose’).

            Credentials: PhD Biochemist.

          • dani stout

            Yes it is literally a fact that fructose is toxic to the liver in excess, it can even be toxic in moderate to limited amounts for certain people.

            Glucose and fructose are metabolized differently, anyone who argues otherwise clearly has no idea what they are talking about. Glucose is used by every cell in the body, while fructose is metabolized only by the liver; the process of which produces free radicals and triglycerides.

          • I somehow or another got sucked into the isagenix cult by some people that I know and trust. It worked for them and they looked great. I am now sending this garbage back. I don’t care what anyone says it is just that…garbage. There are 4 cleanse days where you drink all this stuff and pop pills and don’t eat. This left me sick to my stomach. This is not a lifestyle that anyone can maintain nor should they even try. I am on day 5 of stomach cramps, bowel problems, nausea, vomiting, headaches, joint pain, aches, etc. I don’t feel cleansed I feel sick. I am going back to my whole foods diet as that has never made me sick…ever! If you ask any isa supporter they’ll tell you that it’s just my body clearing toxins…well I was on an all organic whole food diet before..I can’t imagine I was chalked full of toxins. I have lost 10 pounds…but I don’t feel great. Good luck to anyone that gives it a try. It was not for me!

          • Hi Dani – I just stumbled across this. I am a Veterinarian who has done some Med School post-grad in human nutrition and disease, and I absolutely back your take on Isagenix.

            I fail to see how the harm it will do to people could outweigh any modest, temporary (there is enough literature to show that these types of weight loss plans are invariably temporary) weight loss.

            I see that NZ (where I live) dairy is being lauded as some sort of milky panacea. Unfortunately our marketing far outweighs our commitment to environmental stewardship. It is worth watching Dr Mike Joy’s “100% pure delusion” talk to learn more about this misconception. He is the senior lecturer in Ecology & Zoology at Massey University.

            And even if NZ dairy were all it was cracked up to be – that wouldn’t be enough to redeem this junky product.

            It has been two decades since we first began to learn of the potential harm from synthetic vitamins in the ATBC and CARET trials. I would recommend these as required reading for anyone considering Isagenix or similar supplements.

            Cheers,
            Anna

          • dani stout

            Very interesting. Thanks for your comment, Anna!

          • Brooke Raymond

            Keep going Dani! I love that people are trying to justify putting toxins in their bodies because our digestion system should remove those toxins!? WTF – maybe I should do a line of coke and hope my body can process that toxin out of my body. People want the quick fixes. I’m locking my arms with you and the people that understand nutrition are locking arms with you too. KEEP IT UP!!!

          • dani

            Thank you! Haha, solidarity sister!

        • Dear Megan, Leisa, Dani and any other interest parties,

          I have started isagenix and now at day 8 of a 30 day cleanse. I am doing to give it a try as a my personal trainer mentioned it to me. I can only concur with Dani about the ingredients list as I have all the products she has mentioned which are the ones you mention Megan too and they have the ingredients that Dani has published on her blog. THEREFORE isagenix does is gluten, contains fructose, maltodextrin etc. So someone really needs to read the back of the packaging! As I said I am giving it a go as a template to regulate eating habits and to see what are the benefits as was looking for more energy. Australian farmers are the most efficient producers of food we need to eat everyday. Lets just buy fresh food and then we would all be a lot healthier!
          Regards,
          G

        • ISAGENIX was not found gluten free.

          I tried it and I am gluten intolerant and have anaphylactic reactions to any form of gluten, traces or anything small.

          My life was at serious threat from consuming an isagenix shake. I would never do it again.

          • Michelle

            Wow that’s interesting I have my kids doing it ATM and they got it off their friend whom is selling it and she is a celiac ! Really thought I was right in that! I don’t think they even know any of this info ,but they don’t listen anyway!

        • Absolute lies Megan – go check out their ingredients and you’ll find they contain soy, wheat, and traces of nuts !! LIAR!!!! To prove this:
          http://rejuvenation.isagenix.com/~/media/product/fiber-snacks/fiber-snacks-fact-panels/au-en-fact-panel-fiber-snacks-peanut-chocolate-chew.ashx
          AND :
          http://rejuvenation.isagenix.com/~/media/product/slimcakes/slimcakes-fact-panels/au-en-fact-panel-slimcakes.ashx

          no get back on your high horse and leave this honest reviewer alone…
          At the beginning of the Isagenix “Are you Toxic” Video on their home page, their is also a disclaimer saying none of their research is backed by official scientific evidence!!!! It comes up so fast and dissappears as quickly but i paused it and presto!!! So really Dani is right, do your research !!!!! You dont need to buy her 21 day plan to talk about products in a blog you fool!!! You are the one who is mistaken about ingredients…

          • Interesting that you say this about the disclaimer.. It reads that it hasn’t been evaluated by the FDA, for those who know the FDA only reviews and controls products that could be harmful to health. No food products or supplements are monitored or approved by the FDA, it’s mainly for prescriptions and drugs. No where does the disclaimer say there is no scientific research, it states a study that was performed by a University. Where did you get this information?

            2 things about this article – firstly this blog clearly states that Dani is paid by products to endorse their products which means she is a paid blogger, who gets paid to write about products or write against them. I know because I hire bloggers for a living, it’s a great way to make money but it doesn’t mean they know everything about the nutrition side.

            Secondly, I find it interesting that it is mentioned several times about the gluten and soy – the shakes don’t have soy in them. There are a few products now that have gluten however the shakes don’t. I am gluten intolerant as well and have major reactions when even a bread crumb touches something i eat. I have been using the product for about 8 months after being on a completely organic diet where my body could only eat sweet potatoes, avocado and organic vegetable soup. I was anorexic, malnutritioned and exhausted all the time. I wanted to give up before I was introduced to the isagenix product line. I had done so much damage to my body that even my brain was affected. I had a hard time holding conversations and my focus was gone.

            Isagenix saved my health, in my opinion. I have never felt this good, in my entire life. I finally have focus, mental clarity, I feel like I am getting the nutrients my body needs to function daily. I thank GOD EVERY DAY that I found this product, because before it i was extremely sick on an “organic”, “whole food” diet.

            i respect your opinions in this article but no where in the links you listed for the shakes does it contain gluten or soy… There are a couple of products that do and they list those on their allergen list and clearly state it on the packaging, so those with allergies can stay away. I too have researched several products on the market, but I mainly go off of how healthy I feel. I used to have migraines 2 to 3 times a week.. they are gone now. Be careful what you read, this company has 2 published studies by Universities and more to come – these studies aren’t just put out by the company they are listed with the universities as well as in other well known and respected publications. I challenge you to research John Anderson the master formulator.. you’ll find his background in science is pretty impeccable.

            It’s important to be well educated about products on the market. It’s also important to know the source. Dani I commend you for the way you have chosen to earn a living by writing a blog and reviewing products, and being compensated for it. I’m sure if Isagenix were into paying people to write blogs on them, the tone would change. Several other shakes on the market do not have research behind them, are soy based protein which is bad for you and isn’t even considered to be a full meal replacement due to the amount of protein in it.

            There is plenty of information out there, I personally went through the ingredients and researched each ingredient and feel very comfortable that I am consuming good product, my body also tells me it is good. I also eat whole natural food when I’m not eating Isagenix, I believe the American food system is broken and needs a reform. Even organic crops sit next to regular crops and unfortunately get the mist of pesticides. It’s scary where our food system is when so many other countries like Mexico, New Zealand and Australia and several others have reformed not allowing companies like Monsanto to exist. If the product is not good then why would a scientist in retirement who has 2000 patents and plenty of money come out of retirement to help people feel better? It’s clearly not about the money – he was already rich, so why then would he come out of enjoying his life of retirement to work if it weren’t to make great products and help people feel healthy? that you can research too off of the isagenix website… Wishing everyone health across the world! It’s all we have!!!

          • dani stout

            “2 things about this article – firstly this blog clearly states that Dani is paid by products to endorse their products which means she is a paid blogger, who gets paid to write about products or write against them. I know because I hire bloggers for a living, it’s a great way to make money but it doesn’t mean they know everything about the nutrition side.”

            I actually don’t get paid to write posts as I don’t accept sponsored posts. And if you actually “hire bloggers for a living” which I’m not even sure what that means, you would know that bloggers rarely, if ever (I’ve never known a blogger to get paid for this and I know a lot of bloggers) get paid to write against products. I’ve never been paid to write an article actually. The disclaimer is for my affiliation with companies like Amazon, doTERRA and Perfect Supplements.

            I never said the shakes contain gluten – other products do. And containing soy lecithin means that the products contain soy.

            This article doesn’t contain my opinions. It contains facts.

            Please don’t assume to know how I earn a living. I’m not compensated for these reviews. I write them for people who are sucked into spending their hard earned money on a subpar product. It’s insulting to insinuate that the only reason I wrote this article is because I was paid to do so. I wasn’t. I write what I want and it’s important that people know the ingredients in these products. Health doesn’t come in a can.

        • Anonymous V Reply

          Wow, you people really don’t know how to turn off the sale pitch, do you? Every discussion turns into an opportunity to SELL SELL SELL.

          • yes there are some products that have soy, nuts and gluten in them with the slim cakes being the only product in Isa AUS that contains gluten. The shakes are 99% dairy free and the why is produced by grass fed cows in NZ and they only use the most Undenatured produce.

            The fact that Isagenix is actually helping people both financially and physically is a huge thing and the results don’t lie. The products are even endorsed as an Organic product. THis is one of the first terrible reviews I have read on the product and am slightly amused by this. THANKS FOR MAKING MY FRIDAY AMAZING!

            Of course every discussion is an opurtunity to sell as they are obviously interested in the product and if they go ahead and share their success with the product they to can “sell sell sell” and earn some money back. Everyone is entitled to think what they want but I have never felt better and there is no better feeling than helping others achie
            ve their goals!

          • dani stout

            You’re very welcome for making your Friday amazing. I aim to please.

          • Anonymous N

            They can’t turn it off because they go through sessions and sessions of training on how to pitch their sales and become millionaires. LOL
            Pathetic!

        • Hi Megan,

          I take Isagenix vitamins and it says that they DO CONTAIN SOY right on the box. I still like the product and am going to continue taking it, but just thought you may want to know since you said they do not contain soy. Thanks.

        • You wanted 3rd party research……Well here it is. This was posted in a NUTRITIONAL journal. From the University of Chicago. http://www.nutritionj.com/content/pdf/1475-2891-11-98.pdf

          There are more then just that article. It pretty sad that your all for one product and not for another. Pick one and stick to it, right? They all have bad and they all have good. I would LOVE to see the thrid party research on your beloved product. Have universities (more then one) done research on your product? Did your product score higher the 46%+ on ALL categories tested, when compared to the heart healthy diet. Or what doctors around this hemisphere recommend to people. Guess what more and more are recommending Isa because it has the research to back it up.

          I really dont care that your not FOR isa. Or that you prefer one product over another. Its sad you think that just eating organic is preventing you from taking in toxins. Evidence shows that even eating organic you are eating 1/2 a liter of pesticides every year! What about the stuff you drink or bath in……skin is the biggest organ we have. Its impossible to get away from them.

          Sad also you have to bash a product when hundreds of thousands are getting GREAT results…..with a 96% success rate with people KEEPING IT OFF and feeling great its hard to deny its a good product. I would LOVE to see the results for your product. 96% I doubt its that much! thanks for coming out though. I also find it funny that you said you didn’t want to click on the page that EXPLAINS all the things you said were bad, JUST because it was from isa. SO you wont even let the company defend it self and SHOW YOU that really your dont know what your talking about. Like so many else have said……what are your credentials? This product was refereed to me by MY DOCTOR. who HAS done WAY more research on this stuff then EITHER of us has. She said she wouldn’t have put her name behind it if it wasn’t amazing stuff. So who am I going to believe…..someone that just looks at words and makes ASSUMPTIONS or my doctor who has all to loose if this product was a giant FLOP?

          • dani stout

            Perhaps you did not properly read my article or the subsequent hundreds of comments I’ve left reiterating what I’m about to say to you – or perhaps you were simply unable to properly comprehend the info.

            Here goes again.

            I readily acknowledge that Isagenix, especially combined with IF (which I’m a fan of and practice myself) can help people lose weight. OF COURSE eating a liquid diet for two meals out of the day and eating a 200-400 calorie dinner is going to help obese women lose weight. DUH.

            Does this mean it’s a healthy product? NO. Smoking crack helps people lose weight too. A man recently went on a potato diet for four months and lost weight and improved his cholesterol. Does this mean we should all adhere to a potato diet? Does it mean he wasn’t doing his body damage in other ways?

            I implore you to use your brain, think critically and employ some common sense.

            Are all of you that ask for my credentials unable to read, or could you not come up with the genius idea to simply check out my About page and see where they are CLEARLY listed? I am a Certified Nutrition Consultant.

            Also, majority of doctors know nothing about nutrition by the way – they’re not even required to study it in medical school. My doctor tells me I need to switch to vegetable oil and start eating gluten despite my amazing health status.

          • Laura, did you read right to the very end? In particular,

            Competing interests: Krista Varady has a consulting relationship with the sponsor of the research,
            lsagenix, LLC.

            and

            Funding source: This study was funded by Isagenix LLC., Chandler, AZ

            … most definitely not third party, independent research.

          • Sorry Laura but Isagenix funded that study how is that 3 rd party? I am a Isagenix distributor.I say thanks for the article Dani. Trying to counter Dani’s articles with Isagenix articles is embarrassing. Right now you can go to Hight Fructose.com or whatever and they’ll tell you it’s great. If folks want to continue using and selling Isa then go ahead. Just don’t bash Dani’s work. It’s obvious she is bringing 100% facts to the table. The person earlier that called Dani a fool, once again embarrassing. I will most likely continue using Isa for now. Thanks Dani for some eye opening information.

          • I’m very curious who all these people think should be paying to fund studies of these products? Pharmaceutical companies pay to have their drugs studied, and even then only a small percentage of the drugs they come up with make it to market.

            This was a study actually performed by a third party which found positive results, and keep in mind that Isagenix may have payed for the study but the University of Illinois at Chicago has its name and reputation on it. It seems to have been a well carried out study and is thorough in both it’s criticisms and possible improvements as well as its conclusions.

            Although as someone who has studied a great deal of chemistry and engineering I find the “Whole foods/Organic foods” movement to be completely absurd. Being anti GMO is even more ridiculous as we’ve been modifying organisms for as long as we’ve been farming ~10,000 years, and horizontal gene transfer has been occurring for a long time more than that! We can just do it more accurately and safely now.

            I was genuinely curious about Isagenix and its ingredients when I discovered your website as my wife has been using it for a few years now, thanks for the reminder that people justify eating whole foods don’t actually use any science to back up that belief. Word to the wise, any vitamins your body doesn’t use are excreted which at worst gives you expensive urine.

          • dani stout

            Literally everything you said has been completely discredited.

            People have been hybridizing, which is COMPLETELY different from genetically modifying. Genetically modifying involves altering plant genes using the genes of animals, viruses, bacteria, etc. This can only be done in a lab and has proven to be carcinogenic. Do you think that 10,000 years ago people had labs in which they figured out how to genetically combine fish genes and tomatoes?

            Eating whole foods isn’t backed by science? IS THIS A JOKE? Like really, are you pullin’ my chain here?

            You realize you’re bashing vitamins, and Isagenix uses synthetic vitamins, right? AKA the worst kind of vitamins that aren’t absorbed by the body?

            Word to the wise: you need to do some reading on very basic nutrition. Seriously.

          • In all fairness, the Irish were the healthiest of all peasants in the 1800s, thanks to their diet of only potatoes. As a single source of nutrition; potatoes are close to as good as gets. As a nutritionist I’d think you’d know that.

            As far as fructose goes, like someone else pointed out, a number of items start to become toxic after you consume too much. To act like this is news, much less horrible, is absurd. And since you keep asking for non-isa sources, here you go:

            http://paleoleap.com/10-reasons-why-fructose-is-bad/

            You need about 50 grams of fructose before it starts to become a real danger. If someone is following the diet, even at two shakes a day, they won’t consume anywhere near 50 grams of fructose a day.

            I don’t care if you don’t like IsaGenix, I don’t sell it. I don’t care if no one on this board likes IsaGenix. My Mom doesn’t like IsaGenix and I care about her opinion a heck of a lot more than any of yours.

            What I DO care about is the use of the word “unbiased” in your title. Just because you use facts does not make an opinion “unbiased.” Facts can easily be twisted to suit your needs, see the above paragraph about fructose…. So you don’t eat fruit, ever, right? Because of the horrid fructose? Or do you eat some, in reasonable doses? My guess is the latter. How horrible for all of those people who died from eating too much fruit. Except that you said you recommend honey as a viable sugar alternative, and honey contains fructose. You shouldn’t eat honey, it contains fructose and fructose is toxic.

            Your article is nothing short of fear-mongering. You prey on uneducated people who fail to research information for themselves and instead want to rely on you because you are a Certified Nutrition Consultant. If you want to use your title to help people, then do it, but lose the fear-mongering. Some of us don’t believe people just because of the title on their articles, or even the credentials they carry. A bit of research that barely took 30 minutes and 1 visit to the isagenix website solely to see that there are 11 grams of sugar in the shake (only part of which is fructose.)

          • dani stout

            As a single source of nutrition potatoes are as good as it gets? Not quite. I’d go with eggs – protein, healthy fats and a multitude of vitamins and minerals. Ya know, most of which are lacking in a potato. Although I do like potatoes…

            Re: fructose – 50 grams is very high. Not to mention PaleoLeap says “for healthy people.” Most people who resort to Isagenix aren’t the healthiest and do so because of health and weight problems. I eat less than 10 grams of fructose per day. Dr. Mercola recommends under 25 (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/02/28/new-study-confirms-fructose-affects-your-brain-very-differently-than-glucose.aspx and http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/05/02/is-sugar-toxic.aspx)

            Most of the shakes contain around 11 grams of sugar. If we assume half of that is fructose and people are consuming two shakes a day, plus one of the snack bars, like this one: http://www.isagenix.com/~/media/product/isalean-bar/isalean-bar-fact-panels/us-en-fact-panel-isalean-bar-chocolate-decadence.pdf which contains fructose and a whopping 16 grams of sugar – a person would be consuming at a minimum 20 grams of fructose per day – not even including any they’re consuming from actual food! And it’s worth mentioning that PaleoLeap is including naturally occurring fructose, ya know, from an unprocessed, whole food. Not from an overly processed shake or “IsaLean bar.” For someone who likely already has issues with blood sugar, insulin, liver function, etc – they should be consuming nowhere near this much fructose.

            There’s a big difference between small amount of naturally occurring fructose in whole foods that I recommend. There’s also a big difference between “fear mongering” and educating people who are otherwise spending their hard earned money on overly processed food byproducts that are being peddled ad health. I find lately that using facts and science to evaluate things is labeled as fear mongering. It used to just be called critical thinking.

        • Yes, I just love how you copy and pasted information from Isagenix. This is an advertisement for exactly what is being exposed here as unhealthy! This isn’t research, this is marketing material.

          • Heidi Bauer

            The Chocolate Decadence Bar is a meal replacement bar, not a snack… Just saying.

        • New Zealand diary farming is anything but pristine!
          New Zealand diary farms use huge amounts of nitrogen in order to grow more grass for the cows to eat. These cows eat this grass! Detrimental to both milk quality (definitely not organic) and huge negative implications for the environment.
          Get your facts straight!
          PS i’m from NZ.

          • Thanks for the info Mesh- yeah they make it sound so pristine with the dairy cows in NZ. Someone posted that the shakes are dairy free. Well the second ingredient is skim milk. Um how does that make it dairy free? Also whey comes from milk and I have friends who are allergic to dairy and react to whey.
            Just silly.

        • How many different Isagenis websites are there Megan? Do they NEED more than one? What’s up with that?

        • Hi, I just copied this off the Isagenix site, clearly it does contain soy!!!:
          IsaLean® Bar Chocolate Peanut Crunch
          Ingredients: Protein blend [whey protein isolate,
          calcium caseinate, whey protein crisps (whey
          protein concentrate, rice flour)] evaporated cane
          juice syrup, chocolate coating (sugar, chocolate
          liquor, cocoa butter, milk fat, soy lecithin, natural
          flavor), maltitol, peanut butter (peanuts, sea salt),
          glycerin, peanut flour, sunflower oil, natural flavors,
          vitamin and mineral blend [dipotassium phosphate,
          dicalcium phosphate, magnesium oxide, ascorbic
          acid, zinc oxide, niacinamide, d-alpha-tocopheryl
          acetate, potassium iodide, vitamin A (palmitate),
          manganese sulfate, biotin, copper gluconate,
          electrolytic iron, riboflavin, sodium molybdate,
          pantothenic acid, sodium selenite, thiamin
          mononitrate, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride,
          cholecalciferol, cyanocobalamin, chromium amino
          acid chelate]
          Contains milk, peanut, and soy ingredients.
          Processed on equipment that also processes eggs
          and tree nuts.

          • And look at all those synthetic vitamins. They are not coming from food, otherwise the food would be listed not they vitamin.

        • I’m looking at an isagenix is a delight package right now, the 4th item on the ingredient list is … You guessed ! SOY LECITHIN !

          Your paycheck must be like alcohol to a drunk, it cancels out any sense of mendacity?

          Otherwise, you wouldn’t have lied in your obvious sales pitch

        • dani stout Reply

          “In addition, Isagenix customers in Australia and New Zealand should be assured that all Isagenix products and their labels adhere to GM food labeling requirements and are in accordance with the Food Standards Code. All products can be claimed as “non-GM” or “GM free” in accordance with Australia and New Zealand regulations that prohibit representations about food that are false, misleading or deceptive.”

          Not certified GM free in the US, which is where majority of genetically modified crops are grown.

          • Courtney

            I can’t believe the grief people are giving you Dani! This is your blog no one has to read it! I believe everything you have said is true. It is interesting that isogenix website does not list any ingredients. The only way to get more info is to buy the product! Total gimmick! Everyone who is using it that have commented on this say they feel great and feel better than they ever had! Talk to us in a few years let us know how good you are still feeling! I doubt anyone will still be taking the products! I agree that nothing is better for you than eating a balanced diet of whole foods and regular exercise that includes strength training, cardiovascular training and flex ability training! One more thing Dani never said all products contained gluten or that they did not contain ingredients that can be beneficial. She more pointed out that the overall idea of this consumer product is not the healthiest choice for weight loss or cleansing. Cleansing can also be dangerous to your health and should only be done with the advice of a physician! Another thing to ensure health is to eliminate name calling from your diets it definitely creates low energy! Good day!

          • dani stout

            Thank you for the great comment!

          • Dani,you need to remember Isagenix is just the new Amway. It`s Multi Level Marketing..just another cult scam like the numerous ones before it.

          • dani stout

            I’m not familiar with their business plan. I know not all MLMs are bad.

          • Hey dani, i just want to say everyone has an oppinion. there is always the bad and the good. i play defense in the nhl. i do not sell this product as i did it to lose a few pounds and cleanse my body in attempt to gain more energy and tone my body. isagenix did just that, i dont feel ill and i have been using for past year. this product has also been certified by the nsf which certifies that athletes in pro settings can eat or use without worrying about toxic ingredients that are banned from us using

          • dani stout

            Someone who plays defense in the NHL has commented on my website, I have officially made it in life!

            I’m not being sarcastic (well, not really). I love hockey. Who are you? I watch hockey, I wanna know! Also if you’re lying about this I’m going to be so disappointed.

            I don’t doubt that Isagenix helped you lose some weight and tone up, I’m just saying there are better ways to do that. Without synthetic ingredients.

      • Considering your course at Blue Heron Academy included herbal and chinese medicine you failed to review the high level of quality western herbal, chinese herbal and ayurvedic ingredients within the Isagenix products.

        You also keep refering to it as a diet which it is not. Perhaps you could do some research into Nutritional Cleansing and it’s purpose in detoxifying the body and again report a “whole” view rather than a fractioned one which appears to serve no other purpose than to direct people to purchase your 21 day program.

        • dani stout Reply

          What herbal and Ayurvedic ingredients?

          And even if Isagenix’s goal is to cleanse – it’s impossible to cleanse via or while consuming ingredients like sunflower oil, soy, denatured proteins, vegetable oils, etc.

          • With your qualifications you should understand how things work in synergy in the correct balance. You are still picking out what you deem negatives and if you had reviewed the Isagenix products in full you would be able to cite the herbal/Ayurvedic ingredients for yourself. Evidently you haven’t so I’ll give you a few to get you going with some further research.

            Flax Seed, alfalfa leaf, wild yam, cinnamon, milk thistle, tumeric, red raspberry, black tea, green tea, horny goat weed, wolfberry, pomegranate, cayenne, ginseng, hyssop and peppermint leaf.

            Many naturopaths and dieticians highly recommend these products to their clients.
            Your opion is extremely flawed and shows your unprofessionalism. You clearly only want to discredit as many products as possible to try and make money off your own. Integrity Dani, integrity.

          • dani stout

            Toxic ingredients that pollute the body do not work synergistically with detoxifying ingredients. Eating detoxifying foods does not somehow make it okay to eat complete garbage.

            I am a health coach, it is literally my job to sell my services.

            Common sense, Mary, common sense.

          • Thanks for your below response Dani, yes it common sense to sell ones own products however not professionaly ethical bad mouthing other products to do it hence it displays you lack intregrity.

            You didn’t really address any of the direct questions I asked you in order for you to present a more intelligent whole view of the debate.

            It is always easy to pick out negatives in things and life, it is being wise enough to determine if the positives outweigh the negatives.

            You have taken that choice away from your readers by presenting on aspect which is more your personal opionion rather than an objective professional one.

            Critisism is a great thing as it allows for change to occur, if it is not seen in this light then it is nothing more than judgment.

          • dani stout

            This is a review, it’s not bad mouthing, I didn’t make anything up. I highlighted toxic ingredients that are unhealthy. It’s a fact that some of the ingredients are unhealthy. I can’t change that. I also clearly stated that I received a significant amount of requests from readers to review Isagenix, so I did. Am I supposed to keep my mouth shut because people like you disagree with me? THAT would be a lack of integrity.

            So let me get this straight, you acknowledge that Isagenix uses toxic ingredients, and that they also use healthy ingredients, so the positives outweigh the negatives? That’s not how nutrition works. You can’t be healthy by eating garbage, then taking supplements or detox products to expunge the effects of a poor diet. A poor diet is a poor diet.

            I’m not presenting an opinion. I’m presenting facts. That’s what all of you Isagenix supporters seem to not understand. It is a fact that the shakes contain denatured proteins. It is a fact that they use inflammatory oils. It is a fact that they use processed ingredients. So what exactly is my opinion in this? That these ingredients are unhealthy? Yes, because science says they are, and science does not lie.

          • dani stout

            Did you read this article? I never once mentioned Cleanse For Life and it has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote. I clearly listed which products’ ingredients I reviewed and I provided the links.

          • Integrity is remaining resolute in the face of adversity. Tell me Mary, do you have your own integrity, or do you just coast by on ‘tick of approval’ bandwagons. I mean, why bother questioning things when you can just keep believeing what you first thought. Idiosyncracy is the easy way i guess…just like shakes.

            Oh, wait…that’s right. Criticism!! I hear it’s great for change! Something else you may not know, is that we’re free to criticise and change ourselves, after all, our belief paradigm is almost entirely from environmental influences.

            As for Isagenix, do you believe they have no integrity after questioning the quality of farmed foods (whether it be soil nutrient deficiency, pesticides etc)? (Also just FYI, the question mark is rhetorical, but they are swell to use for asking actual questions).
            But what i haven’t heard them say is that it is far more healthy than a balanced whole food diet. Good old marketing integrity, it’s all about lying without actually saying it.

            I would also be interested to know your method of quantifying positive vs negative wisdom decisions. My guess is it looks something complex as such;

            + ÷ – x ?W
            Please advise…

            The calibre of many pro Isagenix in this feed are reminiscent of parrots. Once they have their wings clipped and learn some words, you won’t hear the end of it and they just won’t f**k off.

            Although, there does seem to be a slight case of the ‘Chinese whispers’ through the promotion of Isagenix. Marketing interpretations lead to assumed implications and many false merits, which is then further propagated by an ignorant clientel, meanwhile Isagenix sit back and reap the profits of a misrepresented product without the accountability for product misinformation. Gullability is great for business. Get your positively, happy, youthful energetic lifestyle shake powder today! Purge your old lifestyle out your colon with out Creamy Dutch Rudder Chocolate shake!

            As for the life changes some have experienced (Weight loss, drive, community etc), if you believe something will make your life better, it will. “Perception is reality”, and belief is so profoundly powerful, that it defines
            ones attitude and behavior, regardless of the validity of the belief.

            Ye of little faith of self, tend to put their faith in other peoples beliefs. Trusting people is a positive social construct, but many institutions take advantage of this. Now back to you Mary for the wisdom calculation. Should people keep trusting everything they hear first, or remain open to reason?

        • Mary, there is nowhere that states the quality of their ingredients anywhere on there site, or proves where they are sourced from so top stating fact without proof! It is a meal replacement system meant to be taken with excercise and normal food!!! Dont pick words – look up the dictionary definition of diet before you split hairs you troll.
          I saw no attempt from this lady to sell her program to you. utter rubbish ….

        • Thanks for the info. A friend has presented this product to me. Before I went ahead and tried it, I thought it would be a good idea to look for various views of this product.

          First off, I’d like to thank everyone for their views. But, I don’t see the purpose in slamming a particular person or their educational back ground based on the fact that you may disagree with you. Commenting and or slamming Dani’s view based on her educational background then proceeding to share your thoughts, when you dont have any kimd of educational background in the matter is totally hypocritical. Second, one person mentioned that this IS… stuff is not a diet. I dont think you realize what diet means. A diet refers to the food choices you make through out the course of your life. Indivuals who eat a lot of chips and icecream can be said to have a diet of that which contains chips and icecream. So, yes this product is considered as part of a indivuals diet. And if this is all the person consumed, the IS… stuff would be their diet. It would be much more benifitial if people would stop slamming one another and actually just presented various facts. Maybe I didn’t read far enough down the list on these comments, but I didn’t see too much information solidly explaining the contraction of the product or how the ingredients that Dani listed from the toxic product list were of any kind of benefit for the IS… products.

          Sorry for all spelling andon’t Grammer errors. typing on my cell phone is rather wonky on this site.

          • I agree with your comment. It is interesting how the very emotionally distraught supporters are unable to engage in educational banter. They are also either not skilled in providing the unbiased researched facts or there are none available. If I remember correctly, Communist countries are the ones who support a one way communication channel.
            If you are supportive of anything, be honest and say you really don’t know. Then do your research.
            Here is an example of what I have read in these feeds: As much as I would like to MAKE AN UNEDUCATED GUESS that the deniers are probably democrats or don’t vote, I have absolutely no data to support my crazy statement and could have also made an assumption based on the personal filter/belief that all or most democrats never or can’t back their decisions with facts. Presenting facts to support a concept or product is not an action influenced by a group you belong to. Presenting unbiased facts is honest research. Everyone should be supportive of honest research. Rather than getting upset, use your energy to seriously find research to support what you beleive. Dani has done so and continues to address ethically those who disagree with her. This entire feed is so educational and entertaining on many levels. Amazing how so many people resort to name calling when they interpret something as offensive. I am sharing this sight with my daughter and students to learn how to debate and how not to debate, good and bad research, the balanced and unbalanced person, Gorilla Marketing, and the list goes on! Keep this feed alive!

      • You mentioned many times in your blog and in responses to others that your objections were only to certain products, ingredients, or processes from Isagenix. I have been using it for about 6 months now. I do not sell or promote it and am not a fanatic or nut like some of the others posting here have been portrayed. I initially started as a serious skeptic, talked reluctantly into it by my wife and sister-in-law. I had a serious weight problem and my health was gradually getting worse. While I may or may not agree that certain Isagenix products are bad or good for me, I have had a significant improvement in my health and weight during this time. What I object to the most in your presentations is the blanket statement, “Isagenix is unhealthy,” while saying that it is certain products and their ingredients or processing you object to. I could find absolutely no reference to one of their flagship products, Product B, anywhere in your site and yet, it is probably the most important of all their offerings. This is probably what has helped me the most of all the Isagenix products, although I have received benefits from others as well.
        I feel you need to publicly clarify your objections to just the ones your actually object to. Posting “Isagenix is unhealthy” as a global statement is misrepresenting and unfair to the company and product and misleading to those searching online for information like I did.

        • dani stout Reply

          Do you also drink their shakes or eat their snacks?

          • Yes, but again you avoid my point. Unless you can prove that EVERY single product that Isagenix makes and sells is unhealthy, you should retract your global statement and apologize.

          • dani stout

            Yeah, I don’t mean that every product is unhealthy. Not sure what I would rename this article to though. Isagenix: Less Than Desirable Ingredients? I’ll just change it to “An Unbiased Review of Isagenix” like I did for Advocare.

      • This is the kind of information I was looking for. I found it very strange how few negative reviews were available for Isagenix system. I am from the “school” of where if something seems too good to be true, it is because it IS too good to be true. 400 dollars for a 30 day system sounds to me like a rotten pyramid scheme with a frantic dietary fad.

        • Annoyed by Isa-maniacs Reply

          From your lips!!! I cannot STAND all the skinny b*tches selling this sh*t all over the place where I live. “Oh you lost 20lbs, that’s great. Where did you lose it from, your soul?” Cause you’re already a size 6 lady.

          They are relentless. One doesn’t even have the energy to work out yet she sucks down those shakes! It’s a SHAKE plan for crying out loud! $400 / month. I don’t get it. A bag of muscle milk is what, $35? How about eat some fruits and veggies. Eat some protein, eat more fruits and veggies and voila! Oh, and workout for 30 mins a day and you’ll lose weight!

      • I think you need to understand that some people cannot and don’t want to live in your lifestyle. no one of your weight and stature would need to do a program like this and it boggles me that thinner people always want to share their input within this scope of feeling.

        Do you know what it feels like when you put a doughnut in your mouth and somehow it feels like it melts away all of the worries in the world? Do you know how it feels to try a ‘lifestyle change’ (because GOD FORBID we call it a diet) and fail miserably and want to run in the direction of food because that provides comfort?

        If you don’t, you need to go take a seat far in the back of the classroom.

        I haven’t read any fatalities from this and you won’t be on it forever. A lot of people don’t feel like they’re starving or depriving themselves when they’re on it (could be the chocolate shakes?) and I know someone who lost 30lbs in 30 days on this. She had so much energy and wanted to workout and wanted to eat that lighter meal.

        Please, take a seat.

        • dani stout Reply

          Maybe you missed the headline that clearly states “DANI STOUT – HOLISTIC HEALTH COACH.” Or maybe you’re unaware of what a health coach is? It’s literally my job to discuss these things and coach people. So using your logic, if someone isn’t overweight and doesn’t have issues with food, they shouldn’t talk about it. That’s asinine.

          It’s also presumptuous to assume that I’ve never had issues with weight or food.

          • Thanks dani. You just saved me over $300. Healthy eating and exercise it is. Also have read that the only research done on isagenix was funded by isagenix. Hmmmmm…..

          • dani stout

            Always happy to save people money! On a side note, I can’t believe it’s that expensive. Even I charge way less than that!

          • The undenatured Reserveage whey protein Dani shows in the video is a poorer copy of ingredients as used in Isagenix Whey Protein and is more expensive. Isagenix use undenatured Whey and has lactase added for digestion. Reserveage has only started in 2008 using same natural supplements as what Isagenix have been producing. How is it ethical to knock the original and promote the newcomer?

          • dani stout

            Did you not read the article or were you not able to understand it? Reserveage is 100x better than Isagenix. Just because Isagenix is an older company does not mean it’s a better company. There is literally no logic in that argument.

          • Not everyone loses 1 pound per day. If you are overweight or obese, losing any weight is healthier than where you are at.

            Lots of people lose 5-7 pounds the first week, due to a complete change from the typical North American diet into flooding your system with superior protein, trace minerals and elite nutrition that it has been lacking. Then it regulates with cleansing, detoxifying and replenishing to 2-4 pounds a week.

            Unhealthy is being obese. Too much pressure on the heart, organs and body systems. That’s unhealthy.

          • dani stout

            What you don’t seem to comprehend is that putting toxins into your body does not “regulate with cleansing, detoxifying and replenishing…”

            That is complete nonsense.

          • Not only are 99% of Isagenix reps not qualified to sell supplements, apparently they have issues with basic math too according to Julie’s answer. she says they don’t lose 1 lb per day…just 5-7lbs in the first week. Pretty sure the math adds up to 1lbs, or close to 1lbs / day.

            The scam here is that this “weight” loss is NOT fat. Eating only 1 small meal per day plus a couple shakes = low carb starvation, which simply depletes glycogen stores. Fighters do this all the time to make weight for a fight as a standard practice. Companies like Isagenix try to pass this off as actual weight loss, which is fraudulent.

            I would lose my personal trainer’s license if I promoted this type of garbage to my clients. 1-2 lbs FAT loss / week from proper nutrition and exercise is the only healthy route.

          • True. Max, you shouldn’t lose more than 2 a week. Learned this the hard way

        • Holy Grass-Fed Cow!!! The ONLY reason I stumbled onto Dani’s blog is because a friend gave me a (unsolicited) packet/single serving of Isagenix IsaLean Shake, Natural Berry Harvest, to try.
          Without even reading the individual ingredients my first reaction was, “Uh, I don’t think so”. I am familiar with most of the ingredients but not all and so in my research I found myself reading these comments.
          Wake up folks! One of the reasons we have an obesity epidemic in the U.S. is because of the diet roller-coasters we ride as uninformed consumers. THERE IS NO MAGIC PILL!!
          When the body begins a “detoxification” process of any kind (read: diet change) the initial weight loss is water, not fat. So when you read such wonderful product testimonies about diminished bloating, 5-10 lbs lost ‘first week’, etc. (just examples) you can chalk it up to water weight. This is the point where the roller-coaster comes in – as soon as we stop seeing the big weight loss numbers (number on the scale stops dropping) and we hit a plateau, more often than not, the average person goes back to their old habits.
          Unfortunately, our society has been drawn to the world of “I want it now” which began with fast food and now it’s perpetuated itself into “fast weight loss”.
          There is no healthy fast weight loss. You have to eat a well-balanced diet which includes carbohydrates (45-65% of daily calories), protein (10-20% of daily calories), and fat (20-35% of daily calories) AND you have to physically exercise. Skinny, size 6, people are not necessarily “healthy”.

          I read Dani’s initial article and found it very informative. What I didn’t find was her personal opinion. I’ve also read many of the responses and for those who have blasted back that she is “dangerous” or “uninformed” or “not being factual”, relax. In the business world, especially marketing, bashing competitors is simply bad for business. Stick to the facts (which Dani did) and give others the opportunity to make an informed decision. It may be assumed Dani does not support Isagenix products but, based upon what I’ve read of her initial article and subsequent replies to responses, she isn’t stopping anyone else from their own personal choices. She stated her purpose and delivered information, nothing more and nothing less. That doesn’t mean we’re all going to agree and like it but we can all agree to disagree, if that’s what makes the most sense.
          Lastly, someone mentioned a 30-day cleanse – and here’s where I get on my own soapbox – ARE YOU KIDDING???? That IS a dangerous prospect in and of itself. I’m not prepared to disclose a bunch of research that I don’t have at my fingertips but I will reiterate my earlier point that with good nutrition, the body will cleanse itself.
          My credentials: I am a NASM (National Academy of Sports Medicine) certified personal trainer and a NPTI (National Personal Training Institute) certified personal trainer and nutrition consultant.
          Healthy eating to All!!

          • Actually losing 1lb per day is unhealthy even if you are overweight. If you are losing any more than 3lb per week you are more than likely losing muscle mass and not fat. Healthy weight loss should be steady and maintainable. You shouldn’t be consuming less than your base metabolic rate unless advised to do so by a qualified health professional – and there are very few situations in which they will advise you to do so.

          • Beautifully said, Paulette. Love your blog, Dani.

      • First I would like to tell you that I am not a distributor nor have I ever sold any Isagenix products. I am however someone that has been using them for the last year.

        Its easy to judge things then we either haven’t tried them or use them ourselves. If you really want to criticize a product you should then try them first then give your analysis.

        I suffered from severe Gluten and Irritable Bowel disease for years, over 5 in fact. And although i was being seen by my family doctor, nutritionists, and had completed all sorts of tests for Intestinal diseases no one was ever to fix me. I couldn’t leave the house without plotting out my route of every bathroom from point A to B, carried around plastic bags in case I needed to go and there was no bathroom around to make a stop at; I was also exhausted all the time, never had any energy. I lived a miserable life.
        Then a friend who had a similar problem on a milder version told me about Isagenix and how much it had helped her so I decided to give it a try.
        Within a week I had more energy, felt like I could ran a marathon, I could eat without immediately running to the bathroom, by the end of the first month my Irritable bowl was gone and so was my gluten sensitivity. In addition I lost 25 pounds which was a bonus.
        One year later I am enjoying life, just went on a work trip to China for 2 weeks, didn’t take any of the products with me was able to eat and try all sorts of new foods and didn’t have a single problem with my bowels.

        I’m not a doctor, neither am I a nutritionist but any product that can improve someones daily life is deserves a bit of respect and a more depth look. These products helped me and maybe not everyone experiences the same results but I’m a believer.

        Thank You

        • dani stout Reply

          I stopped reading after:

          “Its easy to judge things then we either haven’t tried them or use them ourselves. If you really want to criticize a product you should then try them first then give your analysis.”

          I don’t need to try crack to know it’s not good for me.

      • Promoting a fundamental misunderstanding of chemistry and nutrition is dangerous, yes. You are just appealing to a different nutriotion religion and draw uneccessary distinctions. There is nothing that indicates “organic” is better than GMO. In fact all the organic products you eat were just genetically modified over hundreds of years by humans through selective breeding.

        So eating “natural” things that are easily pronounacable is better than chemicals? Well natural things are made of chemicals too and while we have common names for them they also have a chemical name.

        Hemlock is a naturally occuring plant, should I eat it? Probably not it will kill me in rather short order.

        Dihydrogen monoxide sounds pretty chemically, ya? Should I avoid it? Probably not, it’s water. Of course water is also toxic, as are most things at sufficient levels.

        Your article is far from unbiased and it highlights distinctions that are not necessarily important for judging potential health risks.

        Some chemicals should be avoided, some should be consumed in moderation. Whether they are produced in nature or synthesized in a lab is probably not the best line to draw. Plenty of chemicals produced by other plants and animals are harmful and plenty of man made ones are safe or even health promoting at moderate doses.

        My post in no way pertains to the isagenix system and it’s potential health benefits or risks.

        • dani stout Reply

          You just said that GMOs are not inherently healthier than organic food. You clearly do not understand the difference between genetic modification and natural hybridization. Nothing else you say is worth reading and you’ve lost all credibility (which you clearly did not have in the first place).

          • bee valentine

            Dani, bless your sanity. The Iso-maniacs are afraid their get-rich-quick bubble will burst and have sounded the alarm for their trolls to flood your site with ritualize testimonial after testimonial. There’s no magic here, no secret of science and no common sense. It’s water loss, temporary and an unhealthy way to live over extended periods. Nothing more than Stepford Wives pushing temporary weight loss plans. They are a tenacious bunch and some of them, downright clueless.

      • I’m not for or against this product, just came across your blog while doing some research to find out what it was. I do believe in healthy eating, and that natural, truly organic and seasonal food is best.
        I don’t agree that what is essentially an opinion piece should be passed off as anything but that. This is especially the case when the list of sources does not contain one recognised, peer reviewed journal article, but instead copy and pasted web links.
        There are many, many poor people out there desperately looking for a solution to their obesity, and many of these programs will work for different people. Presenting opinion as fact, and robbing these people of the opportunity to try something that may save their life, is immoral. Perhaps your way of life will suit some other people, but maybe others will need to try something different. They deserve to read truly unbiased reviews of products, and try at their own discretion.

        • dani stout Reply

          You clearly need to learn the difference between opinion and fact. I provided facts supported by research (apparently PubMed and Harvard aren’t up to your standards?) and basic nutritional science. Just because you don’t know how to properly research or recognize research does not mean that I don’t either.

          How do these products benefit the poor when they’re some of the most overpriced, expensive products on the market? I mean really, you make no sense.

          I’m immoral for highlighting the fact that people who know nothing about nutrition are often duped into buying these products that are touted as healthy when they’re anything but? For giving people the tools to recognize unhealthy ingredients in their overpriced protein shakes? Mind you – I give away all of this information for free, and I’m immoral?

          • Your Harvard source is a blog, hardly peer reviewed, and there doesn’t appear to be any articles from pubmed in your source list. You’ve quoted from ‘Butter Believer’.
            Also, yes, it is immoral to provide free advice, when you try to pass that advice off as fact, and pad out your blog entry with emotive phrases like rancid and gasoline-like.
            You’ve compared these programs, that some people have had great results from, to anorexia…..

          • This is seriously the best factual article and comment thread I have read in awhile. I can’t work out why everyone is getting so fired up at you Dani when you have just presented the scientific facts. Actually, I can because these facts potentially are going to financially impact some Isa consultants who are clearly in defense mode.

      • Collette Youngblood Reply

        I LOVE this response! These Network Marketing people are so certain they are “right” that they have forgotten to do the research themselves. Ingredients cannot lie. Your article was so accurate I actually did a little SNAP right after I read it. YES. LOVE. IT. Carry on! There is good work to be done and Good real food to eat!

      • I notice you didn’t answer the question about your qualifications. You’re like a “life” coach. The glasses make you look smarter. You’re blog doesn’t.

        • dani stout Reply

          I’ve answered this question million times. Like honestly, how can anyone even accuse me of not answering this question? Not to mention the fact that common sense would dictate simply looking at my about page to see that I am a CERTIFIED NUTRITION CONSULTANT.

          Also, your improper use of “you’re” when telling me my blog is essentially stupid, is HILARIOUS.

        • bee valentine Reply

          Terry, when people get personal, it’s because they have no effective argument to put forward and thus, spent, resort to rudeness. You need to lie down and mind your p’s and q’s.

      • I love what you have written, it’s wonderful but it’s a shame that you advertised your own program on there, it just gives them a reason to say you are only putting down isagenix to sell your own product. Drives me nuts the shit they carry on with and I know your products are the best way to get healthy but they will use anything to support their argument!

      • You say your review is unbiassed, however it clearly is not since you go on to promote your own system. An unbiassed review has nothing to gain from it’s review and you clearly do. You are treading on thin ice by making claims about soy and gluten being in the products, when the label on the front clearly states “Free of Gluten and Soy”. And like Tanya says, what ARE your credentials to be making such false claims. You make strong assumptions about natural flavours and what some do, but that doesn’t mean that Isagenix does the same thing.

        Now, don’t even get me started on the whole organic movement. Everyone knows that no organic farm out there is 100% free of pollutants and pesticides. As much as the organic farmer tries to be free of pesticides there is no guarantee. You see, the farmer next to him might use pesticides and depending on environmental conditions i.e., wind, rain, those pesticides and pollutants can easily end up on an “organic crop”. And there are no governmental controls in place to govern the whole organic market.

        • dani stout Reply

          1) The word unbiased does not have the word ASS in it. One s.

          2) Were you unable to read the ingredients in the FiberSnack and SlimCake? Wheat and soy, homie.

          3) Again, common sense would dictate my credentials are detailed in the “about” page.

          4) The USDA governs organic and what can and cannot receive the organic seal. Organic food undergoes rigorous testing in which farmers, usually small scale, are required to pay fees and provide a ton of paperwork.

          And lastly, I’m really tired of people saying I make false claims. The ingredient lists are pulled DIRECTLY from the Isagenix website. How is that a false claim? If you have an issue with the ingredients they use, take it up with them. Shouldn’t this be the obvious course of action instead of attacking me for reviewing the ingredients they use?

          • I feel sorry for you getting all this negative shit thrown at you. I read your creds and the isa website. I saw the ingredient lists. These isa people who get on their high horse over a review, need to take 10 chill pills and have a nap, not have a go at you. I looked into it after a presentation I went to last week. I stumbled onto your blog and man, am I glad I did. I was gonna sign up. But I didnt like the idea of being stuck in a year long contract. I live in New Zealand and it costs $702, delivered. For 1 month of shakes and pills galore. Frecking ridiculously priced . Not for the average joe blo. Far too expensive, even for me and my hubby earns over $2,600 a fortnight. So its not that we cant afford I just refuse to pay over $700 for shakes.Dont need to get personal either guys! Keep mean names and comments to yourself. I was taught, if you cant say anything nice, then dont say anything at all!! Eli, grow up. Your acting like a 5 year calling people names because you have no real idea about anything thats been said here. You go Dani!! I appreciate your honest review of ingredients. And I learnt some stuff too.

          • dani stout

            DAYUM that’s expensive. Thanks Helen!

      • The only people that would have valid arguments on this terrible product are the people involved with making money out of it.
        There is absolutely nothing healthy about “meal replacement” period!
        “Food doesnt meet our daily needs”
        Youre clearly not eating the right foods or amounts of foods. Isagenix and the delusional people that back it all have dollar signs in the eyes for all the wrong reasons. Youre not “helping” youre “friends” simply misleading them.

      • Gary Brever Reply

        First off, a little reference point as to who I am. I’m an organic vegetable farmer. I’ve owned and operated one of the most successful farms in the state of MN for the past 14 years. I was named “Outstanding Farmer of the Year” and Edible Twin Cities “Farm Hero of the Year” among other accolades.
        Before Isagenix I ate VERY healthily (Organic vegetables from our farm, pasture raised meats, whole grains, etc). I also was very active physically (vegetable farming is very labor intensive and during the winter time I went to the gym three or four times a week to do intense cardio). Despite these efforts, I wasn’t just overweight, but I was in the obese category ( I was 60lbs overweight).
        I was introduced to Isagenix by sister who is a massage therapist. She shed about 55 lbs in the course of 4 months and really kept off the weight. I was always very excited for her, but for a long while I wasn’t interested in having to do anything with Isagenix. I thought I could merely, “pull myself up from my bootstraps” and do it on my own, just by eating clean and exercising.
        It took my wife and I a long time to get started. In the meantime we did look at the company and the ingredients and we were blown away by the quality— sourced organically, no GMO’s, no synthetic sweeteners or artificial flavors/preservatives. The whey we discovered was sourced from New Zealand, grass fed cows. We were blown away!!
        I decided to give it a try for myself in January of 2013. In the first week I shed 10lbs. That was great, but what’s more is that I had energy and vitality that I hadn’t felt in, well…. I had never felt that clear and full of energy! I continued on the first month and shed 30lbs in my first 30 days. I went on to shed a total of 60lbs.
        I look and feel 15 years younger. I’m in the best shape of my life. I can easily get up in the morning and run 10 miles (and am fast— I never even realized I had that kind of speed). I set out to put different goals in front of me including getting into weight lifting and Crossfit.
        In addition to my journey, I started sharing my story with others and helping them do the same. I have now personally helped dozens of people shed 10, 20, 30, 40 and even (3 people) have shed over 70lbs! They’ve taken back control over their health and their lives. They feel good about themselves, they are happier than they have been for years and they are OPTIMISTIC about LIFE!
        Isagenix is a real blessing for our world. It’s tool. It’s a solution of good science mixed with nature to assist people to better health when quite frankly right now people are needing something simple to help them get back on track.
        Is it the end all and be all? It never claims to be. It’s a door opener though… it get’s people feeling better, putting better nutrition in their bodies and gets them active.
        I’ve met the most wonderful people on the planet in this company. People setting out and doing the work of creating positive change in other’s lives. If you are doing the same thing in your own work… BRAVO to you! There’s no need to try to tear someone else down or a company down when there’s clearly (over 400 people have shed over a 100lbs!) tens of thousands of people who are benefitting.
        I urge this of you…. stretch your mind a bit. Realize that sometimes we don’t know what we don’t know. Realize too that the best way to build yourself and what you are doing up is to not tear other people down.
        Here’s my story in video form from last year. Know that my journey has gone on and developed even further after this and this video is due for an update soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks_QvzYbHQk

        • dani stout Reply

          Being an organic vegetable farmer does not automatically mean you eat well. You can eat 100% organic and still not be eating right. It doesn’t mean you know about nutritional science or how to properly fuel your body. Though as someone who’s an organic vegetable farmer, I’d expect more. These products source whey from across the globe, which then has to travel all the way to the US – they use canola, wheat and soy, none of which are specified as organic and all of which destroy topsoil.

          The products are not organic, they’re not even certified GMO-free. They do contain preservatives. Did you not read the ingredient labels I very clearly displayed?

          You lost weight on it. Duh. This does not make the product healthy. It does not make the product environmentally friendly.

          You sell the stuff. This is why you support the product. Let’s just call it like it is, Gary. Because we both know it’s not “good science mixed with nature.”

      • Yay Dani!
        “whole, unprocessed, organic, local and sustainably raised food” IS the way to go and sooooo many people still do not understand the full truth of this idea.

        Thanks for your honest review. I support you!

        So many do not understand the damage that synthetic vitamins, artificial sweeteners, preservatives, soy, gluten and processed sugar are doing to our health and the real danger involved in our constant consumption of these and other synthetics and even so-called “all natural” products we can barely pronounce the names of.

        Thank you for your time and energy and for the still rare (but growing every day) perspective that choosing whole unprocessed foods over “quick-fix” weight loss programs and products is the MUCH better and safer way.

        • Amen, Stacy! You said it!

          When you challenge a way people think and what they have been led to believe their entire life, it scares them to think they’ve been lied to (medical field, food manufacturers–I mean, really? If the food has been manufactured and made in a factory, how CAN that be REAL food?, people and corporations and chemical companies “out to feed the world and raise more food”–how is that working out for us, when we have people literally starving all over the world?). The whole concept of everything people have been told, taught, and have done their entire life isn’t necessarily the right or correct thing to be doing.

          It is what someone SAYS we should be doing.

          What people fail to realize is that for at least the past 60 years, corporations have taken over our food, our farming, our medical field. Basically, our life. THEY dictate what we should eat, what we should feel, what we should wear, what we should buy, basically, how we should live our lives. It’s called consumerism, and consumerism means dollars, which help keep the corporate board members happy and insanely rich.

          It’s only been lately that the lies and deceits they’ve been telling us are finally being shown as just that–lies and deceits. And people don’t like to be told they’ve been lied to. So they resist and complain and fight to the nth degree, because they don’t want to admit that they can’t think for themselves.

          Our human bodies were never meant to run on synthetics and manmade foodstuffs and chemicals and pesticides. Our bodies have no mechanisms in which to use those unnatural and unhealthy, toxic products. That is why more and more people are ending up with a laundry list of chronic dis-eases (usually more than one) and autoimmune diseases.

      • Yes excellent reply and for my own personal reasons, Thank You for posting this! So many people do not understand these things especially with fructose overload on the liver.

      • Hi Dani,

        I first came across your website when I was researching Isagenix and whether to do the program or not (the 30 day cleanse). To sum things up, I have tried EVERYTHING under the sun, eat organic to minimize toxins, have recovered from fibromyalgia through serious detoxing and naturopathic and homeopathic protocols. Many years. Changed my life for the better but pregnancies really make me pack on weight, despite eating low carb, eating “clean”, staying away from allergens (I need to avoid wheat as I am intolerant to it: I can gain 5 lbs of water-weight overnight from eating it). After my third pregnancy nothing worked to take off the weight. Paleo, eating a non-allergenic diet given to me by my naturopath, etc. Was desperate and tried intermittent fasting (too stressful for women on the adrenals: worked at first, then backfired) and Carb Nite (very, very low carb) as well as other ketogenic diets. I had major issues after a few months on those ketogenic diets with dumping minerals and becoming electrolyte imbalanced, despite supplementing very carefully with minerals, etc. So it was a tough decision when I decided to try Isagenix. I went off the ketogenic diets because I just couldn’t stay on them anymore and the electrolyte imbalance was causing me to have high blood pressure, heart palpitations, and slightly high cholesterol (just above normal) from releasing the fat rapidly in my system (I lost 20 lbs in a month). I had to stop. I got IVs at my naturopath’s to restore some of my electrolytes, cleansed my liver, and began to eat normally (still low-carb but some carbs, gluten-free: coconut and almond flour, brown rice, salads, omega 3s, grass-fed meats). Sadly, I gained most of the weight back (15 lbs) that I had lost in only 2 months. I still had 60 lbs to lose, so I decided to try Isagenix as I did not know what else to do. I saw your website and agreed with what you were saying, as I know a lot about holistic health, but I just HAD to try something. All the “after” pictures and testimonials from even people I knew on the program were too much to resist and I figured that I had to try it for myself. Let me begin by saying that I KNOW I am extremely carbohydrate sensitive, but I wanted to try this anyway since low carb was not working for me. So I initially lost 21 lbs in the first 5 weeks and then plateaued for the rest of the almost-4 months. I cleansed for 2 days at a time, 3 times a month. I did what they said. Ate what they said to eat (and it’s expensive!!!!!), when they said to eat it. I worked out. Nothing. The weight was no longer coming off my waist, hips, or thighs. Very frustrating. I know I have a tendency to be a bit low thyroid so wondered if it that was the culprit. Went for a blood test and was SHOCKED at the results: now I have high cholesterol, high triglycerides, slightly high ALT readings, slightly high hemoglobin readings. My mineral levels went back up to normal for potassium, magnesium, and calcium, but not for sodium or chloride. My blood pressure is normal, thankfully, but now all these other problems have come up!! At first, upon reading the results of my blood test, I was floored and scared. But now I feel mad. And I know I will fix this but it’s very maddening that Isagenix puts these things into their products in the first place! Let’s start with fructose. It’s toxic to the liver. Voila! Mine is reeling from all the fructose that I have since found on almost all their product labels. My blood sugar is perfect (4.7) but my triglycerides sure aren’t. The rancid fats messed with my previously perfect HDL and low LDL to a now low HDL and high LDL!!!!! The cleanse drinks did not deal with getting rid of my previously somewhat high cholesterol (from the fat released in my bloodstream last year by the rapid weight loss) and instead have made my ALT numbers go up, as well as triglycerides: on the cleanse days (which I stupidly did for 2 days, up to the day before my blood test) are very sweet and you only consume them 4 times a day, plus small amounts of dark chocolate and “Snacks” which are chewable tablets (sweet, again) to help curb hunger. I am MAD, MAD, MAD that I let myself be taken in by the Isagenix hype. I realize that it works for some people, but it sure did not work for me and has messed up my health. I am off these products as of today (got my blood test yesterday) and am back to eating low-carb but with REAL foods, taking my fish oil, etc. I will be also going to my doctor again and my naturopath to help me restore my liver and overall health. Be careful–this is what I would advise to ANYONE thinking about Isagenix. It’s expensive, full of sugar, and if you are a carbohydrate-sensitive person, no matter what the dieticians say on their website, you may have trouble with the constant (supposed “low-carb” and low-calorie) intake of sugar all day long. For people like me, small amounts all day keep my blood sugar up (even if it’s not considered “high” by diabetic standards) and don’t allow me to lose weight. The fructose is TOXIC to the liver, as you have stated here, Dani, and obviously this is why my liver is in a terrible state right now. OK, someone out there may be reading this and saying, hey! You haven’t been diagnosed with liver disease, cyrrhosis, etc. so why am I freaking out? Well, I’ll tell you. Other than slightly higher cholesterol from the rapid weight loss that was detected in my blood tests in August of 2014, I had NO issues. Triglycerides perfect, ALT levels perfect in the middle of normal range, HDL cholesterol higher than LDL and in a good range, low LDL cholesterol. In just over 5 months since starting in late September, now I have these abnormal readings coming up and my doctor calls me and tells me to come in as we need to discuss these readings. The only thing I did in those 5 months was do Isagenix! Lesson learned. Thanks, Dani, for the passion you demonstrate at getting the word out there. I wish everyone out there who does Isagenix luck: I hope it works for you. Perhaps just doing the one month 30-day cleanse would have been enough, but for people like me who have a lot of weight to lose, I was advised to stay on it for the long-term until the weight comes off. That did not happen for me. Thanks for reading this.

      • Thank you for this article. I tried the Isagenex thing and found it way over priced as well as plane not liking it. I put it in my head that I don’t need any new fad or shake that if I eat right and WORK for it I can lose weight in a much more healthy manner.

        But one thing that you didn’t touch on that I was curious about is the way Isagenex encourages constant cleanses and basically starves people who are using it. Is there any insight you have on that?

        • dani stout Reply

          I’m actually not familiar with the cleanses they do, can you send me a link or give me a bit more info?

      • I completely agree with everything you wrote in the article bec everything you wrote is the truth. I recently came across an article where isagenix claimed they could not verify if their ingredients were GMO free bec there isn’t accurate testing. I have a new product I bought sitting on my desk called vital proteins which is labeled GMO free. I also have a protein powder in my closet at home which is GMO free and labeled. Isagenix is another gimmick….ANYONE who calorie reduces will lose weight it’s a no brainer!! besides the fact that their ingredients are ok at best they are super effing expensive. and FYI to other readers our bodies are quite capable of removing free radicals on a daily basis if it weren’t we’d be all sick or dead. there are tons of other ways to detox free radicals and heavy metals out of your body; try juicing fresh vegetables and fruits. Dark green vegetables especially cilantro pull heavy metals from the body plus they are loaded with LIVE nutrients. lets be honest if it’s in a can and can sit on a shelf for years how loaded with nutrients can it be. Isagenix is a money making tool for primarily the people at the top! end of story.
        btw I’ve been a personal trainer, avid bodybuilder and overall healthy person for 30 years. I’ve seen all kinds of “fads” come and go. Nothing beats good Hard training and live foods with healthy proteins and healthy fats!

      • Dani, your reply is spot on! In my experience, all the Isagenix people try to scare us into thinking that there is no way our bodies can rid themselves of all the environmental toxins we are exposed to. I agree that the environment has become very polluted and that we are exposed to more toxins than ever before, but as long as you eat healthy, unprocessed and sustainable food, your liver can do a pretty good job of getting rid of things that are not not supposed to be there.

        And Tanya Hicks, if you are questioning anyone’s credentials as a nutritionist, you should also question the folks selling Isagenix who claim to be experts because they watched a 30 minute video

      • Hail Dani, well done for exposing it for exactly what it is, agree with you whole heartedly!

      • Great work Dani!!!!!

        Amazing article, VERY ACCURATE! Although some have been brainwashed by these MLM companies and may not like to hear it, others will certainly benefit from getting unbiased honest information. You are doing a wonderful thing. Keep up the good work and don’t let the naysayers get to you.

        Be well!
        MW

      • Sue Williams Reply

        I find the Isagenix review accurate regarding ingredients of Isagenix. It seems in multiple blogs/article comments that those who sell products for profit become overly defensive/angry if you do not agree. Working in the health care field as an RN, I have met a multitude of people from different educational levels and cultural backgrounds. You acknowledge their beliefs and propose other options that have scientifically proven facts that actually prove what you tell them. There is no valid scientific studies on Isagenix. Truthful products do not necessitate rude, offensive, threatening, disparaging remarks, etc. be made at anyone who does not agree. The products speak for their self –just as natural healthy foods do. When I read angry and emotional comments made at someone who does not agree with a product reviewer, I know they would not be so upset if the product they sold or used was valid.
        See: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/isagenix-study-is-not-convincing/

    • I am a doctor of chiropractic and I agree with Dani!! I am sick of these mlms coming into my office and trying to educate me on nutrition. A whole food organic diet is the way to go! I do have An open mind and gave isagenix a try and sent it back after trying for 20 days because I know there are better products out there that are half the cost. Anyone who does not have a whole food diet will see effects of weight lose and detoxification with any product. Save your money and your life by not depending on these silly products. I will say that isagenix is better than some of the other products, body by vi, herbal ice etc but not by much. The reason why people get upset is because they are trying to make money promoting these products. Don’t fret over the person who called you evil dani!

      • dani stout Reply

        I agree – there are worse products out there, but there are also better, and a healthy diet is the best option.

        Thank you!

      • Not true Riley…Most people associated with Isagenix share it because they feel awesome and their lives have been changed. Not all…most. I share it because it has truly changed my life. I am an RN and I would encourage you to do your due diligence and study the facts and ingredients and how they are processed. John Anderson is a genius. He extracts the nutrients from food sources. They are not chemical based. But as you know from chemistry even nutrients from food sources have chemical names…remember organic chemistry? The whey protein used is undenatured and 99% lactose free. That is a fact.
        Don’t let all of the MLM companies out there narrow your field of vision. Be teachable…look at the stories. Look at the facts….do your own research. Isagenix will hold up to the test. I know it
        I seriously encourage you to not lump Isagenix in with every other MLM company. (Yes there are a lot of bad ones.) You may miss out something INCREDIBLE because you put your walls up and let your hair raise on end just because a product in sold through direct sales.

        • dani stout Reply

          “I am an RN and I would encourage you to do your due diligence and study the facts and ingredients and how they are processed.”

          I would encourage you to do the same. Isagenix contains soy, gluten, denatured proteins (what do you think non-dat dry milk is?) and rancid vegetable oils. These are facts.

        • Where on earth is RANCID in any of this??

          I love that in your add you are promoting a “miracle pill” GARCINIA CAMBOGIA

          LETS BASH ISAGENIX SO I CAN PROMOTE MY OWN CRAP!!!

          THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING WHEY PROTEIN. THERE IS EVERYTHING RIGHT WITH ISAGENIX WHEY. ISAGENIX USES UNDENATURED WHEY FROM NEW ZEALAND GRASS FED COWS. DO YOU KNOW WHY???? 3 MAJOR POINTS THAT NO OTHER COMPANY DOES…..

          TO KEEP GLUTEN FEED OUT OF THE COWS. WE ARE WHAT THEY EAT.

          TO ENSURE THE FARMING PRACTICES ARE OF THE HIGHEST GRADE… NEW ZEALAND.

          TO NOT COOK ALL THE GOODNESS OUT OF THE WHEY.

          TO USE ONLY HIGH QUALITY WHEY. LEVEL 7

          THE SOY LECITHEN USED AS AN EMULSIFIER HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ISAGENIX LINE. IT IS NOT TOXIC. HOWEVER THERE IS CONTRIVERSY SO THE PRODUCTS THAT CONTAIN THESE ARE BEING REVAMPED.

          I WOULD SAY HORSEHIT DANI HORSEHIT

          I’D SAY YOUR A FRAUD

    • Mark Featherstone Reply

      What “IS” your credentials? an English teacher? what does “MEED” the needs of our society? You better “DO” some accurate research, or better yet, conduct some accurate research. I know a lot of people that are taking all of these supplements and it is terribly disgusting and not natural.

    • you are ridiculous. Do some research before you speak. The author is right, this product is not labelled as NON GMO because it does contain GMO ingredients. THINK before you speak.

    • All you stupid isagenix people are the SAME.
      and you guys do have a habit of replacing your CHILDREN’S meals with these shakes and bars. For that my friends 4 yr old hasn’t grown a freaking inch since he was 2! That’s her poor decision due to brain washing by her own father who is an invester for the company. Rich man just trying to make money off of ya, doesn’t even give back to the community.
      And is on a mission to brain wash all of you dumb people who is willing to believe this crap!
      I see what it can do to people. I know someone who’s 26 yrs old and 80lbs because that’s all she eats and drinks, and a child that hadn’t really grown, when he should have…
      It’s sad

      • I give the shakes to my kids and of course they also eat plenty of real food. My daughter who has always been small and had asthma and chest colds has stopped getting sick and shot up in the last few months. We were eating an organic, whole food diet before we started Isagenix. I took a very long time to sign on because of the fact that it IS a network marketing company and I am very well-versed in nutrition and supplementation. (Incidentally, I think it is INSANE to think that you can live in this toxic world and be able to effectively detox and fill your nutritional needs without SOME sort of vitamin or mineral supplementation, whether it be through soaking in salts or imbibing) We were using ALL of the holistic tricks and we were still getting sick on a regular basis. Since being on isagenix I have noticed that it has fixed a long-time hormonal balance that I was suffering from–which was making my periods really rough. I also feel as if sickness cannot get a hold in my body. In addition to that, I have had all of the other benefits you would expect taking high-quality supplements. I am happier, sleeping better, have more energy etc. In the interest of full-disclosure, I am “selling” the product. I have helped a number of people get better from-long term illness as well as lose weight with this line.

    • Hey Tanya – You are narrow minded and brain washed!!! I think toxic is already taken control of your brain…

    • You can’t just write “Fact:” and it be true, where are your resources and your qualifications?? This is the kind of uneducated response that makes false information continue to be spread. There is obviously no reason to argue with you as you are clearly one of those people who are always right even when smacked in the face with some contradicting evidence. I wonder if back in the day you would have been on the ‘world is flat’ commonsense bandwagon.

      Great article and a lot to think about

      • dani stout Reply

        You’re absolutely right. You can’t write “fact” and automatically make something true.

        That’s why I provided studies and scientific analysis to back up my facts. And Jesus, if you want my qualifications, for the millionth time, common sense would dictate just looking on my “about” page. Certified Nutritional Consultant! So I also have a clinical knowledge of that facts I’ve provided.

    • Funny, my doctor advised me not to use any meal replacements or supplements of any kind!!!!! Get your facts straight!

    • It is a pyramid scheme!!!!!!!! My sister got hoodwinked into a couple of yrs ago and found out the hard way, I have tried them and could not stomach the taste of any of them. I would have rather ate dirt!!!!

    • mike thorpe Reply

      halu tanya…but tanya – you are an advocate/supporter of the Isagenix. Of course you will have a subjective rebuttal. And if you was a past student of mine at JCU you would know that research can be undertaken without being a specialist. The research gives you the information for an informed opinion. Profiling you as you have profiled/judged this lady – a supporter of De Generes has their head in the sand…the audience are paid monkeys similar to Isagenix supporters…

    • Mike Feist Reply

      Keep fighting the good fight Dani! Fun to read this battle of comments 🙂

    • What really amazes me with isogenix has no actual legitimate proof that their products work when the suggest the meal replacement injunction with an exercise and calorie controlled diet WTF no wounder the weight stripes off. If you actually look into credible research databases isogenix is not listed but yet the hoax on google and through the isogenix has produce this “so called reseach” which I suggest is backed by isogenix. One thing I find bizarre they claim that isogenic detoxifies our bodies well WTF are our liver and kidneys for. These quick fixes are a money making scheme which is not even approved by the AGA therefore not creditable what so ever.

    • Patrice Cervantes Reply

      Dani,

      I just wanted to thank you for your review of Isagenix. I have been doing some research because some close friends have been pushing this product on me. However, with both parents as personal trainers and a history of being in top shape, I know that this is not the right choice. I’m too nice to let my friends down without some real facts to back up my reasons why and your review gave me a lot to work with!

      Shakes, fads, and quick fixes are temporary fixes to a bigger issue in my opinion. Yeah, I can detox, drink shakes and a few healthy meals a day but am I willing to do that for the rest of my life so I can lose weight? Hell no. I’ll stick to eating 6 times a day, eating my dozen egg whites and veggies, chicken and tilapia. I’d rather invest my money in real food.

      -Patrice

    • Hey there,

      I just happened upon this blog when researching if Isagenix can actually cause weight gain.

      Yes, I said weight gain.

      I have been an associate of Isagenix for the past 13 months and I dutifully get my autoships every 29 days and order the required amount of product to maintain my discount.

      The ingredients listed are accurate. There is also stevia in this product, which is all natural.

      I initially lost 13 lbs with an original weight of 148 lbs. I was 45 y/o, 5’8 and athletic.
      I did not have much to lose, I just wanted to firm up.

      I started this program with the 30 day cleanse and it was very easy. I still spend roughly $250.00/month in purchases to keep my shakes coming.

      I am addicted to the ease of use with this product because it is much easier to mix a shake than plan and cook a healthy meal, especially at my place of business and with the hours I work. I felt good knowing that I was getting a nutritional meal replacement.

      That being said, I now cannot lose any weight at all. I have blossomed from my usual 135lbs to almost 150lbs, and my abdomen is distended significantly. My medical checkup is clear except for 2 adhesions on my liver, perfectly round, which I never had before this year.

      I do believe the Isalean shakes can cause bloating, because that is how I feel. Bloated. Constipated. I can no longer button jeans that fit me fine up until they reached my distended belly. This is in the wake of drinking adequate water and exercising and confirming ( on multiple occasions) that I am not pregnant (which would make me very happy if I were).

      I am concerned now because all I am eating some days are the Isagenix shakes in the morning and at lunch with some healthy snacks in between. My calories are easy to control with Isagenix.

      I believe this program is great as a kick-start to begin weight loss but for long term one must have another solution, i.e. a good clean eating program.

      Dani, thank you for your blog. I’m glad I found you. Keep up the good work.

      Marie

      • dani stout Reply

        Thanks for the great comment and for sharing your story! I really appreciate it, hopefully it will help people.

    • MaltyChick Reply

      The people touting the benefits of Isagenix are not nutritionists either. It’s formulated by chemists.

    • Agree, you should really educate yourself on the nutritional system and the science of the body!

    • You ask what credentials the blog poster has which is probably reasonable, but then fail to provide your own bonafides or credentials as you proceed to criticize this persons obvious fairly unbiased general information, which by the way does not require the need to have any particular certification to provide for it is available webwide as well as through professional health resources.

      Any educated person with sufficient knowledge of health, nutrition or medicine can provide information like this blogger has and it is just as legitimate as any health or other professional could give.

      Where is your data or information to refute what this person has so carefully provided?

      The danger is NOT this blogger but people like you who doubt anyone who is willing and able to challenge the notion that big business and commercial enterprises in agriculture are not causing mahem and risks to the health of consumers by nefarious food processing and food additive practices. Consumers have been too used to just trusting manufacturers and not questioning what goes in to the food and other products we eat.

      Instead of criticizing in an unqualified way you should compliment this person for taking the time and trouble to bring to light some very disturbing facts (that are supported by the references provided).

      And in case you question my qualifications I am a retired military health care provider with training and experience in nutrition and exercise science and environmental health.

      • dani Reply

        “The danger is NOT this blogger but people like you who doubt anyone who is willing and able to challenge the notion that big business and commercial enterprises in agriculture are not causing mahem and risks to the health of consumers by nefarious food processing and food additive practices. Consumers have been too used to just trusting manufacturers and not questioning what goes in to the food and other products we eat.”

        YES!! Thank you for the amazing comment.

    • I find it interesting that the very people who accuse the author of giving inaccurate information do not bother to cite the source for their own. I found the author extremely unbiased, and also very helpful.

    • Heidi Motschenbacher Reply

      I’d like to know exactly where you get your research that verified that today’s foods are not as nutrient dense as they used to be. That might (MIGHT) be true of GMO and/or conventionally grown produce, but organic? No. If you disagree, show credible evidence. Just because someone’s story (ie sales pitch) is good, doesn’t mean it’s true.

    • I can tell you are part of the MLM cult mindset. Believe whatever they tell you so you can sell and make money. Sadly, most MLM sales people barely make enough to cover their own purchases.

    • I have actually taking Isagenix to a nutritionist and she told me how horrible it was. I even had it tested on me through Nutrition Response Testing ( NRT) and it was a fail, my body did not like it. So she is absolutely right. The stuff is pure crap. Do a standard process cleanse instead. The company is very reputable and only give accounts to nutritionist and nutrition student. That in it’s self tells you how good their products are. There is no pyramid scheme involved. Isagenix doesn’t care about your health they only want to make money that is why there products are crap. Synthetic vitamins are used and synthetic vitamins have been shown to cause disease ( ex. Synthetic vitamin E has been shown to increase your risk of heart disease where whole food vitamin E has been shown to decrease heart disease. See the difference. I have messed up my endocrine system from using things like herbal life and other “natural” weight loss supplements. I only take whole food supplements now.

    • Speaking of “credentials” …. Where might someone be able to review your own?

    • Tamara Laschinsky Reply

      I tend to agree….just taking snapshots of ingredients list and saying what WebMD says about certain ingredients can be harmful when you post to be an ‘expert’. Any item in the wrong quantities (water incl.) can be harmful…

      You need to take into account how long someone is using a product, how much, are they doing other exercise etc. If someone’s diet only consisted of Isagenix I don’t think that would be good, however, a few items a day to help with energy, lower caloric intake while still giving high protein and helping someone get the energy to have longer days and exercise is a healthy thing.

      No, not everyone has time or money to buy all the ingredients and prep them to make their own shakes. Also, the protein bars are awesome and I know many people who eat them as a better alternative to eating fast food (these are often guys who are driving all day long and just don’t take time to make lunches so they do the fast food routine). These bars are a much better option.

      so you say “unbiased” and while you are using info right from the web site, it’s how you presented it that turns it very biased indeed. Isagenix also has many programs and fitness support programs that you can join – all of which to support and encourage people to reach their fitness goals…so I think that dedication should be rewarded…not put down. Just saying.

    • Read the labels and do your own research moron. Labels tell you what’s there. Science tells you if it’s good or bad. You have been deceived and now you want attack the credibility of the author. Typical.

  2. Amazing, really! Way to put it all out there.

    “Like Herbalife, Isagenix may be an effective weight loss tool. So is anorexia. Does that make it healthy? Does that mean a person should use it to lose weight? No.”

      • I was nearly dead when I started Isagenix 3 years ago. Now I an healthy and in the best condition of my life. It is sad that you bash products that work so you can charge people $80 an hour to coach them. Shame on you. You are evil.

        • dani stout Reply

          I understand that you know nothing about basic nutrition and how damaging the ingredients in Isagenix are to the humany body, but to call me evil a bit of a stretch, don’t ya think?

          • I find the fact that we have lost the ability to eat correctly astonishing. All these supplements,quick fixes,wonder drugs etc. They are all lies! We have allowed ourselves to be completely dumbed down! My basic philosophy is: Move regularly with intensity. Eat the most natural,whole foods you can and just monitor your portion sizes. It`s not rocket science..is it? Avoid the obvious foods like soft drinks,processed foods etc. Surely it can be THAT hard? I think the majority of the problem is that people have just become far too lazy and are too quick to blame everybody else for their own lack of discipline.

          • Please enlighten me Dani on how many people you have helped with being healthier and happy with yourself. Regardless of what you say is toxic etc I couldn’t two sh*ts about that at all. But the people that you have helped acheive their fitness goals compared to Isagenix. I am not sure as to whether it is comparable. The information you have given maybe true but think about the lives that this product is changing perhaps? You call that sly, another MLM scheme and complain that they dont sure everything. WHo cares it changes lives!

        • Wow Laurie calling someone evil because you disagree on nutrition?? Really?
          You need to pull your head in get a life and some perspective. Plus so knowledge on nutrition. As clearly these products are loaded with unhealthy ingredients.

        • Wow, what do have against a good diet exactly? These products offer a legitimate quick fix for very sick, very lazy, very broke and very desperate and also very sales-orientated people (network marketing scheme) It works for them but for others who lead a normal life , earn an income and eat well and exercise, they can be unhealthy and unnecessary products. Only internet trolls (so many in this blog – named) would stoop to calling people evil, when they are presenting factual information. Who care if Dani charges for health advice? That doesn’t change the fact that she is correct about some of the ingredients you twirp. Just because you were nearly dead does not mean it’s good for everyone!!! Get some real scientific knowledge. You were nearly dead remember – gotta ask yourself why !!! Keep up the good honest approach Dani…..dont worry about the trolls on this blog. They all deserve a lot worse, given the problems they cause

        • I take it “nearly dead” means you know nothing about nutrition and were stuffing your face with crap. You are the only sort of person a ‘cleansing’ diet could possibly benefit. If you learned basic nutrition you would have found a cheaper and healthier way to lose weight. You don’t need to pay someone $80 an hour, you just have to read.

    • This may be one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever heard regarding the anorexia comment. I’m a physician of 18 years. I’ve been using this product in my practice for the past 3 years and have seen some amazing, Life changing results!! People who have lost over 100 pounds, people who are off ALL meds, people who no longer have type 2 Diabetes. You can break down most ingredients and find “something ” that’s conflicting. However, look at the big picture. Millions of people are getting healthy!!

      • dani stout Reply

        Well that’s not nice, I wouldn’t call you stupid for recommend toxic products to your patients.

        I acknowledged that people lost weight, and people likely go off meds that are associated with excess weight. Perhaps you didn’t read, or simply didn’t understand the part where I said weight loss is not synonymous with health. I used the anorexia analogy to emphasize this point.

        I think any good doctor would agree that weight loss isn’t healthy if it’s not obtained in a healthy manner.

        • What about the doctors that administer HCG? Are they stupid?

          Again, if you don’t know what it feels like to be overweight and have a problem with food, then you should either consult a friend who is or…

          take a seat.

          Everyone has to start somewhere and I know plenty of people that don’t like healthy food (or health critics).It’s a little more complex than you can imagine, I promise you.

          • dani stout

            They may not be stupid, but they’re at least bad doctors who don’t care about their patients’ health.

            Again, it’s literally my job to talk about these things and coach people. I thought that was obvious.

      • bee valentine Reply

        Show us your credentials, Jeff. Where do you practice medicine? Refer me to the peer-reviewed scientific studies that show “millions of people are getting healthy”. Men of science don’t speak in broad, sweeping, unsubstantiated statements. At $300+ a month over years of use, this product will create broke diet-addicts. Sustained results can be achieved more successfully and safely with exercise, whole foods and relative portion size to weight ratio. Do you have a relative selling this product?

        • bee valentine Reply

          I posted this under the wrong reply? It was meant to address Jeff’s comment that lies 3 above mine. 🙂

      • Im surprised you would recommend such toxic products to your patients, if you really are a doctor. Of course you make money off it so that makes sense.

      • does this company teach people how to eat? how to choose a healthy eating plan and adopt it for a lifestyle change? or just drink their shakes and hope for the best?

  3. I think most people would agree that whole, from nature, in season, organic, etc etc foods are always best. But unfortunately eating that way 100% of the time is not always realistic for many people (time, money, fitness goals, etc). I use a variety of shakes for that reason, not because I think they have magical powers or are better than whole foods. If I had all the time and money in the world there are certainly ways I would eat different, but for now I just have to do the best with the resources available and what works for me. In the Herbalife post, comparing to anorexia is a low blow.. especially to people who have struggled with it! JMO

    • dani stout Reply

      If someone needs to take a protein shake, that’s fine. I recommend this one: http://amzn.to/1ayypJN one ingredients, grass-fed, raw. It’s such a healthier option.

      I didn’t mean to be insensitive about the anorexia comment. It’s just that so many people were telling me, “well it’s a weight loss tool, it’s helps people lose weight.” And I thought that was such poor logic, which is why I drew the comparison to anorexia.

  4. Great answer! Well done. Why eat “pretend food” when you can get the real thing by eating organic and wholesome food. Meal replacements are dangerous, especially with the toxins in this. The ingredient list is shocking! People are obviously uneducated about these things and are just desperate to lose weight without understanding the facts. I feel sorry for them that these things are marketed the way that are and people believe it! Crazy!
    Great job though!! 🙂

    • Well I would call it food !!! Being a gastric cancer survivor and not having a stomach I rely on liquid nutrition. I have tried what you call real food and get nothing from it, so my only option is food like Isagenix.
      It has given me energy and wellness, I have tried the medical versions such as Ensure and Sustegen, which both contain Soy Whey as well as other ingredients that are intolerable to process.Also a variety of protein shakes that all left me feeling I’ll and gastric.
      The Isagenix shakes have not had these effects and for anyone that cannot digest REAL food as you put it they are a godsend.

      • dani stout Reply

        Congrats on being a gastric cancer survivor! That’s wonderful and I wish you the best.

      • This is completely non topic related but you should get a nutribullet! Those things are amazing 🙂 you can blitz anything into a smoothie

      • Have you tried shakes from standard process. So much better in nutrition and it’s a whole food source instead of a source of synthetic vitamins. Also the fact that you are cancer survivor and there is fructose in isagenix products is not good. Sugar feeds and breeds cancer even to much fructose.

  5. I do enjoy your site Dani, have visited it numerous times. Am a little disappointed in this article however, instead of taking a researched approach it seems you are only looking topically at the system. The College of Applied Sciences and their clinically backed research holds more factual, referenced truth than a quick blog post based on biased reporting or personal opinion. You are also selling a service of $130 a month, clearly stating your monetary compensation disclaimer, who is to say that you aren’t paid to write harmful reviews, in order to attract more attention to your service? Increasing your overall orders, paid promotion of other products, or kickbacks. Seems like more of a case of “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”.

    https://media01.isagenix.com/corporate/ww/pdfs/Isagenix_Clinical_Research_Summary.pdf

    • dani stout Reply

      I did take a researched approach. I researched the ingredients, which are clearly very toxic. This article highlights that and draws attention to it.

      My opinion isn’t biased, I don’t use the product, I don’t sell the product, I don’t receive monetary compensation for writing this. Who the heck would even pay me for writing a review like this? But the link you provided is biased, clinical research backed and funded by Isagenix. This isn’t independent clinical research.

      “UIC study finds subjects on Isagenix products lost more body fat, lost more visceral fat, showed greater adherence, and showed greater improvement across several cardiovascular biomarkers in comparison to a leading “heart-healthy” diet*”

      But they do not disclose was that diet was. I would challenge them to compare a nutritional plan that I have personalized for a client versus a person simply drinking/eating their toxic food. Additionally, “heart-healthy” diets are often high in PUFAs and grains, and low in grass-fed/wild proteins and saturated fat. These “heart-healthy” diets are not heart healthy, and they do not help people lose weight, fat, or regulate blood sugar.

      I do offer coaching, yes. Because I am a health coach. This is a health coaching website. I make that very clear. What it comes down to is facts, and not studies that can be skewed. The fact is, Isagenix products contains harmful, toxic ingredients. There’s no getting around that.

      • If I knew nothing more about Isagenix than that its proponents are exceedingly defensive, it would be sufficient basis for rejecting the product. However based on your common-sense analysis (I did not need to check your credentials) I know way more than I need to know. Indeed, the most damning evidence you presented was simply the ingredients lists! I remember Michael Pollan writing, if it has more than five ingredients, don’t eat it.

      • How can anyone call Isagenix ‘toxic food’, let alone ‘highly toxic’ ? Why not pick on a system that clearly is? Pick on Body Bi Vi where people are getting sick from the stuff…. instead of Isagenix that is changing people’s lives and health for the better.

        • dani stout Reply

          I think I’ve made it clear why I called Isagenix a highly toxic food. Also, I wouldn’t even call it food.

      • And I just saw another post about your “recommended” shake, you know, it you’re going to shake it, might as well be the one I say you should.

        Which, of course, is an affiliate link.

        Double hypocrite.

        • dani stout Reply

          I will never understand why Isagenix users care that I use affiliate links (or that I’m a coach, or that I sell essential oils). This website is my full-time job. Do you not understand that the whole point is to monetize while helping people?

          And how in the world does that make me a hypocrite? I’m not sure you know the definition of a hypocrite.

  6. knows better Reply

    You clearly have NOT done accurate research on Isagenix! Don’t bash another company to promote yourself! Pretty pathetic, and not very professional. Just ONE thing you’re wrong about…the protein is from grass fed cows who graze on the pristine land of New Zeland!

    • dani stout Reply

      Okay, assuming this product contain grass-fed milk (which it says NOWHERE on their website) how do you explain soybean oil, fractionated palm oil, isolated fructose, additives, etc?

      How is that healthy?

      • http://www.isagenixhealth.net/battling-myths-and-misconceptions-circulated-on-the-internet/

        http://www.isagenixhealth.net/why-choose-whey-from-new-zealand-antibiotic-hormone-free-cows/

        http://www.isagenixhealth.net/whey-protein-concentrate-a-brief-summary/

        I suggest you do a little more research and homework before you bash a company’s reputation. Isagenix has a “NO COMPROMISE” policy and is changing the lives of thousands, both physically and financially. Does that threaten your ability to make a living with your “oils”? Not sure why you hate on so many companies, but it’s obvious you do.

        I’ve been in this industry since you were still crawling around eating GMO food your mom certainly fed you, and I can tell you that if you think that “WHOLE” foods are something that the average person can afford to put in their body and get as much nutrition as in just 1 shake by Isagenix, then you are sorely mistaken. That’s a thing of the past my dear.

        Maybe in 1950 you could eat a balanced diet and get all of your dietary requirements for a day, but those days are long gone.

        I recommend you read: http://www.amazon.com/The-Silent-Scandal-Attack-Bodies/dp/1935723936

        Good luck!

        • dani stout Reply

          Hey girl. I see you couldn’t answer my questions on my Facebook so are resorting to commenting here (but still not answering my question about what information I falsified – which is highly offensive).

          Let me give you a little advice, when you’re trying to prove your point, it’s not legitimate to do so by linking to the very company that I’m arguing against. Of course they’re going to say their ingredients aren’t toxic. And simply stating “myth versus fact” without any third party links or valid studies to verify their claims in hilarious.

          Mind you – the very fact that you accused me of falsifying information and ingredients is you indirectly acknowledging that they use toxic ingredients.

          As for your other links, they’re about the whey in the products. Can you comment on the gluten, canola oil, fructose, agave, soy or synthetic vitamins? Because no other Isagenix peddler has been able to give me a valid explanation as to why these toxic ingredients are in the products.

          I “bash” so many companies because my readers have been duped by these companies and by distributors like yourself who have no nutritional knowledge and ask me to do reviews.

          Lastly, length of time in this industry does not mean you know about nutrition (or maybe you do and still sell Isagenix for financial benefit). “if you think that “WHOLE” foods are something that the average person can afford to put in their body and get as much nutrition as in just 1 shake by Isagenix, then you are sorely mistaken.” So the average person can afford to spend hundreds of dollars a month on these products full of synthetic vitamins that can’t be absorbed? That doesn’t even make sense.

          I know that companies like this try to promote this ridiculous idea that you can’t get your nutrition from food so instead you have to buy their products full of toxic ingredients and synthetic vitamins. That’s a joke. Between local, organic food and targeted, individualized and food-based supplements, people can get everything they need.

          I suggest you do a little more research on the toxic products you’re selling to people who don’t know any better. They are who I wrote this for.

    • I AGREE!! I DID THE RESEARCH AND THIS IS NOT AT ALL CONGRUENT!!! THEIR PRODUCTS ARE GMO FREE, MOSTLY ORGANIC, AND THE PROTEIN IS GRASS FED RAW UNDENTURED… SAD THING IS IS LIKE HER HER READERS PROBABLY WONT DO THE RESEARCH EITHER:(

      • dani stout Reply

        How did I not do research?

        The ingredients in these products are pulled directly from the Isagenix website.

        Please explain to me how soybean oil, isolated fructose, synthetic vitamins, gluten, etc. are good for you?

        • You need to explain yourself better. You aren’t giving out researched information, You are giving out your opinion on the isagenix product.
          If you want people to believe you, then back your information up with scientific based studies.
          To help you here, first you state your theory “isagenix is bad” then you pull out the information that makes you believe that ” isagenix ingredients” lastly you cite a credible, peer-reviewed study. Preferably medical journals and stay away from .com websites as they aren’t always credible.
          Then you can have a proper, educates discussion here and stop with the judgments and opinions.

          Also you should know Isagenixs is not just a weight lose product. It is used by athletes of all sorts. If you want to have some more credibility, explain how body builders are to obtain there needed nutritional intake just on whole foods and organic foods? The amount of protein needed in one day is almost impossible to eat, thus the shakes are very helpful.

          I am a very good eater. I am a clean eater but I also include the isagenix shakes. I have taken many different shakes – good ones- and I am getting the most from this shake product. The product does say GMO free, check your facts, so important!

          I look forward to hearing about your proper researched opinion in the near future, as I like to learn and research everything I do. I am always open to knowing more about the products I consume But it needs to be researches, credible information.
          But I caution you….. please don’t let your opinion and your credentials cloud the good intentions of people trying to get their lives back on track.

          One more thing…. organic is kinda a joke, you know that right?? With the amount of pollution in our air, water and soil….. how can it be organic? Yes it can be free of pesticides, color, flavor and they have grown it to their best ability, but locally grown food is just as good. My opinion, organic is a money grab…. do I not buy organic? No! But I most certainly don’t buy only organic. I do buy 90% of my produce and meats from Canada though… keeping local 🙂 But that’s just my opinion…. and I don’t judge or recommend anyone do anything but what they want 🙂

          Michele BScN, RN

          • dani stout

            Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

            Please explain how soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate, etc are nutritionally beneficial?

            I buy local and organic food from farms near me. No, organic is not a joke (but it can be).

        • What’s disconcerting to me is the culty behavior of all these Isagenix drones. “You must use Isagenix. Isagenix is like manna from the Gods. How dare you criticize it! It heals the world!” Blahblahblah. So annoying and anyone with half a thought in their brain could see through this rubbish. Dani, thanks for all you do and ignore the trolls. They are all brainwashed. I’m sure some people are “healed” and lost weight and cured of every disease under the sun but the fact of how they attack and defend and argue would make me run for the hills and never even consider their products. I know a few Isa-head drones in real life and every conversation is a ploy to get me to “just try the healthy lifestyle”, “just give it 30 days”, “don’t you want more energy?” blahblah and even one has gone so far as to say that my doctor who treats me via functional medicine and nutrition is robbing me of money and she wishes I could just try this program. Then she talks all about how much money she makes from the sales. I’m put off. I’m sticking with the ancestral nutrition route forever.

          • dani stout

            That’s awesome, thanks for the comment!

          • It’s funny that you should mention “Isa-head Drones” because the ones on here obviously don’t read their master’s literature thoroughly. It says in an article via their home page that when dealing with negativity against their life-blood product one should remember these 3 rules (and I’ve copied and pasted this);

            Don’t click on it.
            Don’t share it.
            Don’t comment on it.

            I guess the Isa-Drones commenting on here are failing Isa 101.

          • Annoyed by Isa-maniacs

            I am also sick of them. It’s a weird cult and I just don’t get it. They are skinny women selling to other skinny women who, apparently, have money to burn.

    • No one is asking about science based research. Dani is correct in everything she has said and my only critique would be to further back her current research by utilizing and citing additional sources backed by evidence based research. The critics on this site offer no back up of their opinions with anything more than what they have obviously bought into after some type of indoctrination into this program. As a RN and public health professional there is simply no research that supports this type of program as being ” good” for you. Any extreme reduction in calories, fasting, and eliminating real food will get you results if yyou’re looking to lose weight, however, over the long term because of the lack if research we really don’t know what type if long term effects this type of regimen may have on the body. The key here is to fully research not just the program but the ingredients and the claims any type of program makes. If you know a medical professional that you trust utilize their professional opinions. Lastly the mist credible information will be found in peer reviewed journals and publications. Be fully informed!!!!!!! One last thing…when you say that the protein is Ftom “grass fed cows grazing in the pristine lands in New Zealand” exactly HOW do you know this? Seriously. How in the world could you even verify this? HOW is that protein turned into the protein you consume in your shake? I’m sure that the process is not as “pristine” as you might think.

  7. Proud Isagenix User. Reply

    This article is actually ridiculous. I will continue to feed these products to not only myself, but also to my 1 year old son, and my husband. No one in my family needs to lose weight. We don’t need extra money, we eat organic local food, and I have plenty of time to cook, however, I have done my research and have taken these products to my doctor, and I know that Isagenix is one of the best things I could ever put into mine and my families bodies. I am sorry that you are missing out. Your loss.

    • dani stout Reply

      Well, considering the ingredients, these are not products I would bring anywhere near my family.

    • wow, I hope for your sons sake that doesn’t come back to bite you..wow. I am no pediatrician however I do have three healthy children of my own and I would never, but that is just my personal opinion, feed them garbage from a can.

      • Really? What DO you feed them when you never open a can?
        You are lucky indeed if you can feed them without opening a can, and I’m glad I have Isagenix to balance some of the stuff I do feed them in this busy life – at least I know they have had ONE healthy meal that day!

      • Agreed – this product is not FDA approved, nor is it recommended by a medical expert for children. You have no idea what the long term effects could be for your child 🙁 I have no pros or cons on using isagenix but I would be so careful about giving any supplements to a child unless on specific instruction from a paediatrician

    • Why the hell would you need a product like this for your one year old? That is scary.

  8. Here is the facebook feed on this discussion…

    Robbie Bianchi Pray I am curious… I read the ingredients and I am still confused. The last two protein products are made from exclusively grass fed undenatured protein from cows that are only milked 6 months of the year…
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray They have enzymes, probiotics, and no hydrogenated oil or agave or anything else on your list… I agree in a whole food diet and I encourage my clients to do that but I have found many of them need help taking baby steps and they can’t do it all right out the gate. Seems to me like this product is far better than what most people are putting into there body. It may give them an option as they develop new skills, habits, and learn how to manage their time. I have been on a whole food journey for the last 5 years and today I am much farther along than when I started. Am I perfect no but I keep on moving forward.
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray BTW the cows milk is also above our organic standards…
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    The Holistic Dude go get them tiger!!
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    Ancestral Nutrition Robbie Bianchi Pray I have found nowhere on the Isagenix website that the whey they used is from grass-fed cows. I’ve found this on sites affiliated with Isagenix, but I think it’s highly suspicious that it’s not on their website. Plus, the milk is denatured, like non-fat dry milk powder, milk protein concentrate, etc. They also contain maltodextrin (often GMO derived, a food additive), they contain synthetic vitamins, isolated fructose (which is toxic to the liver), “natural” flavors, etc. I mean, technically MSG and aspartame can be labeled as natural flavors. I agree that protein shakes can be helpful for some people, which is why I recommend this one: http://amzn.to/1ayypJN (affiliate link).
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    Beverly Lancaster They will shut you down you are now a target.
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    Ancestral Nutrition Beverly Lancaster how would they do that?
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray I have their catalog right here in front of me…
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    Ancestral Nutrition Robbie Bianchi Pray so is your point that the catalog also doesn’t state that it’s grass-fed?
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray It does in two of the photos…
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    Ancestral Nutrition Robbie Bianchi Pray my bad, they hadn’t popped up yet. That’s great. But it doesn’t change the fact that the milk is not raw and IS denatured.
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray I have been researching this company for the last week so it is funny I stumbled across your post…
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    Ancestral Nutrition Robbie Bianchi Pray does their catalog address GMOs? It doesn’t on their website and they’re not verified GMO-free, but they do use GM dominated crops like soy and canola.
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray I looked… Here is what I found. First I contacted Isagenix directly
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray Next I went to Isagenixhealth.net to research…
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray Here is the confirmation for countries who do not allow GMO
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray Paragraph 2 explains low temp and filters as well as that it is a cold process. Other places I have found it said to be done at 104 degrees which is considered raw by all standards I have found…
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray Jenna Dodge I am curious what you think?
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray and just one more pic about being organic and undenature out of the catalog
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray In addition to “natural flavors”… I agree that there are a lot of things that may be included in this umbrella term and it just so happens that natural flavors can be one of them… I would not trust natural flavors in top ramen… But natural flavors is also a way for companies to not reveal everything so that their recipes will not be duplicated… I am not confident that you can confirm to your readers that this is not safe due to its “Natural Flavors.” You can find more on this exact topic by researching isagenixhealth.net. I am in no ways trying to convert you or trying to say this company is the golden goose. I just think that their protein is pretty great. It also tastes amazing:)
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    Ancestral Nutrition Robbie Bianchi Pray I didn’t even address the “natural flavors” in my post, which in hindsight I should have because it’s just another reason these products are not healthy. To each their own, it’s entirely up to you what you put in your body. Personally, I choose to avoid toxins and most likely GMOs, especially because I don’t want to support Monsanto. Also just as an FYI – it’s not legit to retrieve accurate, unbiased information from a website whose intention is to sell the very product you’re researching.
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    Robbie Bianchi Pray But we can trust you right? TOO FUNNY! The least you could do is say shit guess I was wrong… Your “research” from “THEIR” website is wrong! I am not here to fight but it is too bad that I no longer can trust you. I guess anybody can be a blogger:(
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  9. Crap SORRY you cannot see the pictures… You can find this discussion on her facebook page under her rant on ISAGENIX.

  10. knows better Reply

    Get her Robbie! I dated a Bianchi years back…wonder if you’re related? I’m not certain who I can report her to for making false accusations, but I WILL find out. I think she’s messed with the wrong company! Thinking her best option is to retract her statement!

    • dani stout Reply

      That’s what none of you Isagenix-pushers can answer, what false accusations am I making?!

      These are the ingredients I pulled directly from their website, and I’m simply pointing them out. Not my fault if ya’ll didn’t do your due diligence before gobbling up this trash.

      • It is to bad Dani, for such an educated researcher you pinpointed a couple of ingredients which are in just about everything, and you used that to bash a company you obviously have no idea about…just some website information…there are 11 years of testimonials and scientific evidence backed by Isagenix…you should really further your research on solutions for getting people healthy and teaching them how to stay healthy…nothing is perfect we can only try and work together…if you have not tried something or know anyone who has tried it, how could you talk about it just by reading some information…You are missing out on the best solution in the world…If you really want to know what Isagenix has done for millions over the past 11 years , try it yourself and only then will you become a believer…results and stories do not lie my friend…i love that you are concerned and want to educate people, but make sure you know what you are talking about first…Proud Isagenix user for a long time, a health nut myself and have not found anything close to what this system has done, is doing and will continue to do for people…thank you:)

        • dani stout Reply

          Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

          Please explain how soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate, etc are nutritionally beneficial?

      • Not Convinced Reply

        Posting the ingredients from the website and labeling them toxic without references is not due diligence. Name calling does not add to your reputation.

        • dani stout Reply

          Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

          Please explain how soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate, etc are nutritionally beneficial?

          • Funny how you’ve asked this question a dozen times and no one can answer it. I did the same thing on their Facebook page months ago and all anyone could say was that the multi vitamins were all whole food and Isagenix didn’t use anything synthetic. Lie. I was also told that they’re not certified organic because they get products from all over the world, some countries which do not certify. So if that’s the case, label the products with the ingredients that apparently ARE organic. The ingredients you’ve listed are not healthy, I’m sure some of the ingredients are… but seeing as the people consuming these products are most likely coming from a diet of McDonalds – they believe it’s healthy. They should get it right and say it’s healthIER than the crap they used to eat.

          • dani stout

            That’s what I think is strange, they say the products are organic and GM free, but they’re not certified. They should at least be certified GM free, I understand the organic certification is much more difficult to obtain.

            And yeah, some of the ingredients are definitely healthy, but that doesn’t make the entire product healthy. Sometimes I add booze to my kombucha, that doesn’t make it a healthy drink! Just healthiER.

            Thanks for the comment Blair!

          • Nicole Johnson

            Oh Boy, I am reading all this information about how ISAGENIX product is bad for you because of some ingredients and is wondering why is isagenix helping me. I am a cancel survivor and had developed allergies, joint pain, was tired and wipeout out. I am not an obese person and always eat healthy but yet have these problems. I used natural product to help my allergies and joint pain and it never work. Since I am using Isagenix, my allgeriies and joint pain are ALL GONE!!!. I am actually enjoying being outside again. I have so much energy and I feel my life is back. Fact is ISAGENIX WORKS FOR ME.

          • dani stout

            Definitely not a product I’d recommend for cancer survivors.

    • If they’re so great, you shouldn’t feel the need to ‘report’ anyone. People are welcome to make their own opinions on the subject and she wants people to be informed is all. We all own a brain and while most of us use it to make good choices, some make more informed choices. I personally would never put something from a can into my body, or my families body, but then I guess that’s because they’re my family and not yours. Not really sure why people are so passionate about a diet supplement…maybe because there is money involved. I know a large number of people in my town who have used it and only two have kept weight off and they are selling the product. Both have ‘fallen off the wagon’ as well. Another woman was over 400 pounds, took some weight off and put it all back on…most likely because of personal choices, of course. But healthy eating and exercise, again, in my opinion, are the best way…life style change, not change in a can. Also, what happens to all of the extra vitamins? They have to go somewhere right? kidneys? liver? I would be concerned

  11. It is to bad Dani, for such an educated researcher you pinpointed a couple of ingredients which are in just about everything, and you used that to bash a company you obviously have no idea about…just some website information…there are 11 years of testimonials and scientific evidence backed by Isagenix…you should really further your research on solutions for getting people healthy and teaching them how to stay healthy…nothing is perfect we can only try and work together…if you have not tried something or know anyone who has tried it, how could you talk about it just by reading some information…You are missing out on the best solution in the world…If you really want to know what Isagenix has done for millions over the past 11 years , try it yourself and only then will you become a believer…results and stories do not lie my friend…i love that you are concerned and want to educate people, but make sure you know what you are talking about first…Proud Isagenix user for a long time, a health nut myself and have not found anything close to what this system has done, is doing and will continue to do for people…thank you:)

  12. I guess I just don’t understand why people cannot just do what works for them! If eating pure and organic works for you… AWESOME!

    If shakes are better and work for someone else (either due to lack of availability, time or taste)… GREAT!!

    If you aren’t trying to sell them something, critic their choices! I know I wouldn’t put down someone’s choice of what type of vehicle they drive or what brand of running shoe they prefer!

  13. Trudy Petersen Reply

    What are your credentials? You criticize Isagenix while advertising Medifast on your page which I find totally amusing. Medifast has some of the worst ingredients of any shake out there!

    • dani stout Reply

      I don’t advertise Medifast. It may have shown up on the sidebar, I don’t have control of those ads. Will look into.

      Credentials clearly listed on about page.

  14. Not Convinced Reply

    If my students wrote a review like this they would get an F. The ingredients may come from Isagenix but your “facts” are not supported and are conflicting. Despite saying the use genetically modified ingredients you later state that you “doubt” that the products are non-GMO. That alone brings all other statements into question. You should back up your statements of the “toxic ingredients” with references, or are they specifically your opinion? Finally, you have neglected to reference your education/expertise.

    • dani stout Reply

      Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

  15. I will be honest, I rarely look at these types of articles let alone care to comment. But somebody wanted me to look at this. I for one am using isagenix. I have tried the Paleo diet. Although it is a great thing to use, the single biggest problem is you have no clue what is what. Even if you buy local or organic has no bearing if it is healthy or not. To slap an organic label while still using certain types of pesticides, herbicides and so forth still apply. My body personally can tell the difference.

    Isagenix was the only thing that has helped me lose any weight at all. They try to base their products off the Paleo system. They strive for quality ingredients. While you may say some of those ingredients are bad or unhealthy, I personally will not argue that. They completely 100% are. However we are talking about the extract of a certain part that is healthy vs the whole part. That is a huge difference. The developer of the products is a master in the industry to know what is healthy and what isnt in most plants and other resources to get its products from.

    Honestly, I could rant about this till im blue in the face. But no amount of ranting will mean anything because you do have some valid grounds but your missing the concepts of what Isagenix was based off of. The real quality of the stuff used (again my body can tell). But hey id be willing to even challenge you that if you worked with me directly, id probably gain 20-30 pounds no matter what you tried to do if I went Isagenix clean for a month. But at that point you would probably brush it off as a failure and I would be the one left to suffer the consequences .

    I do encourage you to keep at what your doing tho. Despite im one of those rare exceptions where things have to be completely clean doesnt mean you shouldnt be at least attempting to educate people of how bad the toxicity and how bad food in general has become this generation. However I will say isagenix is not as bad as you think it is. Not by a long shot.

  16. Hey Dani,

    I’m an Isagenix user but am very new to the field of bodily health. Would you please point exactly which ingredients are related to your said rancid vegetable oils, oils from genetically modified crops, gluten, isolated fructose, additives and synthetic vitamins and minerals that are not bioavailable?
    The soy they use is soy lecithen(sp?) which is used as an emulsifier and due to it’s trace amounts doesn’t worry me, and the agave syrup is pretty straight forward. I’d greatly appreciate it!
    I’m going to do some research.

    Cliff

    • dani stout Reply

      Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

      Canola oil, soy oil, fractionated palm kernel oil, sunflower oil are all rancid vegetable oils.

      Gluten is in the SlimCake, possibly others.

      They use soy oil.

      Agave is extremely toxic.

      • Tequila is made from the agave plant, so it clearly has some good properties 🙂

      • Do your own research people.

        http://www.allaboutagave.com/

        “The Aztecs prized the agave as a gift from the gods and used the liquid from its core to flavor foods and drinks. Now, due to increasing awareness of agave nectar’s many beneficial properties, it is becoming the preferred sweetener of health conscious consumers, doctors, and natural foods cooks alike.”

        http://www.webmd.com/diet/healthy-kitchen-11/truth-about-gluten

        “The market for gluten-free products is exploding. Why exactly we don’t know. Many people may just perceive that a gluten-free diet is healthier. In fact, it isn’t. For people with celiac disease, a gluten-free diet is essential. But for others, unless people are very careful, a gluten-free diet can lack vitamins, minerals, and fiber.”

        http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-soybean-oil.html#b

        “Soybean oil contains no cholesterol, which makes it a perfect choice for individuals with heart disease or high cholesterol.
        The fats in soybean oil are polyunsaturated which have shown to help reduce total cholesterol, lower LDL or bad cholesterol levels and increase HDL or good cholesterol levels.
        Soybean oil has omega-3 fatty acids, which have shown to reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease, slow the growth of atherosclerotic plaque, slow the risk of arrhythmias or abnormal heartbeats and decrease triglyceride levels.
        Soybeans naturally contain antioxidants, which remain in the oil even after it is pressed. These antioxidants help prevent the damage caused by free radicals, which may help prevent certain cancers.”

        http://www.livestrong.com/article/458009-is-sunflower-oil-healthy/

        “Choosing healthier sources of fat can lower your risk for heart disease, and sunflower oil may help. Most of the fat in sunflower oil is unsaturated, and this oil is a nutrient-dense food, according to the 2010 Dietary Guidelines from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. In moderation, sunflower oil may provide certain health benefits as part of an overall balanced diet.”

        fractionated palm kernel oil is criticized for it’s slightly higher (but not necessarily unhealthy) fat content… what can you do?… not everything you eat can be 100% fat free and unless you’re consuming ridiculous amounts of it on a daily basis, it’s not going to harm you. A certain amount of fat is actually required by the body for sustenance.

        http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/food-nutrition/facts/what-is-canola-oil.htm

        “What can be said with confidence is that drizzling some cold-pressed organic canola oil on your salad won’t do you any harm. Notice the “cold-pressed” qualifier there: Old-fashioned heat-refined canola oil is pretty bland, but more recent cold-pressing methods have resulted in a nutty-tasting oil that makes a nice contribution to a vinaigrette.”

        I have only just begun researching Isagenix today, I am neither a consumer nor an affiliate for their, or any other product. Your article was the first one I came across and you lost me at “unbiased”…
        New health studies come out on different products every other day and your years old information means bugger all now. Please update your knowledge base, research more thoroughly, then form a genuinely unbiased report based on current studies and information.

        • dani stout Reply

          At first I thought this comment was a joke, and am kind of stunned that it’s serious.

          You’re telling people to do their own research, and your “research” is from links that actually promote and SELL agave, Livestrong and Fit Day? You do realize that these are not even close to credible sources, right? Of course allaboutagave.com is going to promote agave – they sell the junk! I mean, this is basic common sense.

          I don’t even know why I’m responding to this as opposed to trashing this comment. It’s evident that you know nothing about nutrition – you just said soybean oil is high in omega-3s. Uh no, it’s high in omega-6 which causes inflammation and heart disease. This is literally a fact. Not to mention the fact that soy oil is extracted used hexane – a neurotoxin. I’ve provided several credible links about soy oil. Please look for them in the comments section, it’s incredibly frustrating to repeat myself almost daily to people who don’t have the slightest grasp on nutrition. And unlike you, my sources are from sources that are actually credible – i.e. PubMed.

          Again, before you tell me to research more thoroughly, you might want to learn how to properly research at all. You clearly have no idea how to do so.

  17. Marina johnson Reply

    Dani Stout,

    You do not mention your credentials as a certified health coach. Where did you get your training and certification as a “health coach” from, the University of ITIKWIATA (I think I know what I am talking about)?

    You are correct to say you are not lying about the ingredients in Isagenix, for these are the ingredient labels from some of the Isagenix products. Clearly, putting these ingredient labels on the internet proves the company has nothing to hide. As I read through these labels, I see healthy ingredients and nothing that would worry me nor my doctors that have reviewed the labels too.

    Now, your research leaves a little to be desired. I do not see your sources as to how or where any of your rancid or toxic claims come from. What scientific labs did you use to test these products? What independent University studies are you referring to in the statements you are making? Should we all believe your personal opinion as fact just because you said so? Well, I know a lot of people that will give you their word that bigfoot is real.

    Lastly, unless you have more than your personal opinion to stand on, I suggest you look up the word SLANDER and while you are at it, find a good lawyer.

    • dani stout Reply

      I very clearly mention my credentials as a health coach, right on the “About” page.

      Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

      Please explain how soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate, etc are nutritionally beneficial?

      Soybean oil, fractionated palm kernel oil, canola oil, sunflower oil, etc are all rancid vegetable oils.

      I’m not sure you understand the definition of slander. What false claims have I made?

    • I believe her use of “rancid” comes from the chemical domain, meaning an oil that has been oxidized, which will occur when it is exposed to high heat (which is the method of extraction/refining used for Canola and usually other oils). It is not from the vernacular domain, where “rancid” just means spoiled or rotted.
      Oxidation from high heat is also why oils should not be heated to and beyond their smoke point — if it’s smoking, then it’s oxidizing, and becomes harmful.

  18. I would encourage you to call the company and talk to the direct heads of departments before making such a false claim. Where is soybean oil listed in an of our ingredients? Lecithin yes but not oil. DO you know that New Zealand actually has higher milking standards than the USDA organic? just because YOU believe some of these ingredients are toxic means nothing..God created all sorts of food from the earth and it has only been the last few years we have decided foods that God created are “unhealthy.” ISagenix has saved many people’s lives and their health, whether they “sell” or not. So I just think it is very unprofessional to bash a company so rudely before knowing all the facts. You did yourself a blogging disservice.

    • dani stout Reply

      Soybean oil is in the FiberSnacks.

      Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

      Please explain how soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate, etc are nutritionally beneficial?

  19. Matt Wilson Reply

    I have been using isagenix products for over 12 months now. I do my research before letting anything enter my body. There are a number of incorrect assertions made by the author.

    Firstly Isagenix has a strict no GMO ingredients policy. Details of this are found on their site http://www.isagenixhealth.net/are-isagenix-products-free-of-gm-ingredients-answer-yes/

    There is only 1 product out of 47 that contains gluten it is the slimcakes which contain oats and wheat flour and therefore not suitable for gluten intolerant people. Their meal replacement shakes do not contain gluten, which is the main product people use to loose weight. Many gluten intolerant people use the products. You can find this on the allergen table http://media01.isagenix.com/corporate/ww/pdfs/Allergen-Table-2012.pdf

    Soy protein is not in any of their products. Purified soy lecithin is in some of their products including the Black Sesame shake (but not the french vanilla or dutch chocolate or berry harvest shakes). However the lecithin is not the same as the protein as the author would know. It’s the protein that is the hormone disrupter. More details on why isagenix uses soy lecithin is found on their site http://www.isagenixhealth.net/why-is-soy-lecithin-used-in-isagenix-products/

    Fructose from organic sugar beet is used in the shakes. Fructose is much better to be using than artificial sweetners and flavourings which you won’t find in isagenix products at all. Fructose is also low glycemic (32) and increases blood sugar control so is a better choice for diabetics. You won’t find high fructose corn syrup in any of the products. Details can be found in this referenced article http://www.isagenixhealth.net/fructose-is-not-toxic-and-can-help-control-blood-sugar/

    Isagenix uses many organic ingredients, however finished products can not be certified organic as some ingredients are sourced from parts of the world where organic certification doesn’t exist. However the whey protein in the shakes is from milk from pasture fed cows without any antibiotics / growth hormones and only milked according to season. This protein is processed at low temperatures to ensure the immune boosting immunoglobulins are kept intact along with active peptides and digestive enzymes like lactase found naturally in milk (but destroyed from typical pasteurised milk you get from the shops) The cows are raised on NZ farms and exceeds USDA organic standards. More details found here http://www.isagenixhealth.net/top-25-questions-about-isagenix-and-nutritional-cleansing/ and here
    http://www.isagenixhealth.net/why-use-new-zealand-whey-grain-fed-cows-are-sick/

    Isagenix is very strict with their product testing. Testing raw ingredients and the finished product for heavy metals, pesticides herbicides etc etc They spend a lot of money each year on this http://www.isagenixhealth.net/what-it-means-to-have-no-compromise-quality/
    http://www.isagenixhealth.net/isagenix-quality-assurance-doesnt-cut-corners/

    The vitamins are designed for maximum absorbtion and bioavailability. More details on the process in designing the multivitamin for instance is found at http://www.isagenixhealth.net/are-you-getting-enough-from-your-multivitamin/

    Isagenix also doesn’t use synthetically derived vitamins through coal tar, nicotein or petrochemicals. More details on the natural fat soluble and water fermented vitamins are at http://www.isagenixhealth.net/vitamins-natural-versus-synthetic/

    Not sure what the author means by additives? There are no artificial chemicals, flavours or sweetners. More details on the natural flavours and what this term means can be found at http://www.isagenixhealth.net/what-are-natural-flavors/

    There are some vegetable oils contained in products however these are non-hydrogenated. Meaning they do not have trans fatty acids like hydrogenated oils do. Palm Kernel Oil is a stable vegetable oil that is extracted from the seed of Elaeis guineensis, the oil palm. Thriving in tropical areas, oil palm is commonly found in Southeast Asia and central Africa. Palm kernel oil is solid at room temperature, which is something that is unique for a plant-based oil. The reason is because of its high content in the medium-chain triglyceride lauric acid (similar to coconut oil).

    A cardio-friendly alternative to animal fat, palm kernel oil is free of dietary cholesterol, and there is no evidence that it increases production of cholesterol in the body. More details at http://www.isagenixhealth.net/whats-in-my-top-5-ingredient-questions-explained/

    As far as isagenix using organic agave. I wouldn’t be concerned seems it’s a beat up by Dr Mercola and others all referencing a guy who runs an energy drink company. More details here http://betterworldcookies.blogspot.com.au/2010/06/why-i-use-agave-nectar-examination-of.html
    http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/agave-nectar/

    If you have any more questions about product ingredients etc, you can send isagenix an email on the http://www.isagenixhealth.net site. I have found them most helpful in the past.

    They also have a daily product call with Dr Ina a clinical nutritionist available to answer questions. Details of her calls are on http://www.isafyi.com

    Basically a word of advice, before you go attacking a company next time, do more research, don’t jump to conclusions and don’t make assumptions.

    To good health:)

    Matt

    • dani stout Reply

      Please see my updated article. I further explain the issue with the ingredients.

      Please explain how soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate, etc are nutritionally beneficial?

      • Matt Wilson Reply

        Soybean oil is not the latest health food fad no. But it’s not toxic when from non GMO sources as isagenix states clearly on their website, they do not use GMO sources for any ingredients whether in US or Australia. All the australian products are made in the US by the way. Soybean oil is only dangerous when it’s hydrogenated. Soybean oil contains omega 6 fats. With omega 6 and omega 3 fats it’s the balance that’s important. This is why fish oil supplements are recommended by isagenix, and their produce an omega oil supplement.

        Omega-6 fats are found in seeds, nuts, and the oils extracted from them—such as soybean oil, which is used to a greater degree in processed foods. Omega-6 fatty acids play an important role in the construction of eicosanoids (inflammatory signaling molecules); however, too much intake of them has been shown to be detrimental to health.

        The fructose question was already discussed and covered in the articles in my previous post. The sugar amount in their shake for instance is like 11grams total which is about 1/4 of an apple. We aren’t talking large amounts of fructose!

        Organic agave nectar is relatively mild, is not chemically processed, and is free from harmful additives. This is the kind that Isagenix uses. Agave has beneficial properties which support digestive health. Agave contains naturally occurring inulin, a form of fructan found in a number of vegetables including onions, green beans, asparagus, and artichokes. The fructans in agave have been demonstrated to support the growth of beneficial microbial flora in the digestive tract. M.G. López and J.E. Urías-Silvas, “Prebiotic Effect Of Fructans From Agave, Dasylirion And Nopal,” ISHS International Symposium on Human Health Effects of Fruits and Vegetables (Québec City, Canada) 2007 (http://www.actahort.org/books/744/744_45.htm).

        Recent studies indicate the presence of fructans in the digestive tract also protects against osteoporosis by increasing the absorption of calcium and magnesium, and may protect against diabetes and colon cancer. “Ingredient in tequila plant may fight osteoporosis and other diseases,” The American Chemical Society News Release, March 23, 2010 (http://portal.acs.org/portal/acs/corg/content).

        Agave plants are composed of fructans and contain no starch of any kind, so agave nectar is appropriate for those on a gluten-free diet. And like honey, agave nectar is composed of the unbound monosaccharides fructose and glucose, which can be directly absorbed without digestive hydrolysis. This makes agave an appropriate sweetener for those suffering from digestive disorders, whose ability to properly digest disaccharides such as sucrose and lactose is compromised. When complex sugars are not digested properly, they can feed harmful bacteria in the gastro-intestinal tract and perpetuate digestive disease.

        Next maltodextrin… A derivative of starch, maltodextrin is more easily digestible than other complex carbs, but it does not cause the same blood sugar spike associated with simple sugars. Semi-sweet or flavorless, this polysaccharide (chain of sugar units) comes from corn, tapioca, potato, wheat, or rice. Department of Health and Human Services. Listing of Specific Substances Affirmed as GRAS. Part 184, Subpart B, Sec. 184.1444 Maltodextrin. 2011; 21:3. CITE: 21CFR184.1444. Online: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=184.1444

        Used as a thickening agent or to round out sweetness, maltodextrin is a white powder that is native to both home-cooking and packaged foods.

        There is some evidence that maltodextrin is ideal for a pre- or post-workout carbohydrate source due to readily available fuel without the digestive discomfort associated with simple sugars. The maltodextrin in FiberPro is resistant to digestion. It acts more like a soluble, prebiotic fiber that helps support normal gastrointestinal health.

        When I asked isagenix directly some time ago about the maltodextrin isagenix uses for their products I was told they use non gmo tapioca maltodextrin in the meal replacement shakes and non gmo corn maltodextrin in the bars/other products.

        Isomaltooligosaccharides are gluten-free fiber (often used in Japanese cuisine) is also “prebiotic,” meaning that it feeds healthy “probiotic” bacteria in the gut. These good microbes, fed well, help make up a healthy intestinal flora that can be important for gut health, the immune system, and more.
        “Yen CH, Tseng YH, Kuo YW, Lee MC, Chen HL. Long-term supplementation of isomalto-oligosaccharides improved colonic microflora profile, bowel function, and blood cholesterol levels in constipated elderly people–a placebo-controlled, diet-controlled trial. Nutrition 2011;27:445-50.” If you can find a study that says this ingredient is dangerous happy to have a look. It’s been in use for decades in Japan and throughout Asia. There are no studies indicating side effects of moderate amounts only many published positive studies. It can be made from many different starch sources like wheat, barley, corn, pulses (peas, beans, lentils) oats, tapioca, rice and potato. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomaltooligosaccharide

        Corn bran is a good source of fiber, protein and B-complex vitamins. It also contains iron, calcium, zinc and magnesium. http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-corn-bran-cereal.html#b

        Tricalcium Phosphate is an effective way to get calcium enrichment without adding saturated fat. Tricalcium Phosphate also helps to maximize calcium absorption in the body instead of it just flushing through the system.
        http://www.livestrong.com/article/372175-what-is-tricalcium-phosphate/

        The question of vitamins was already addressed in my previous post. Article linked here again:

        http://www.isagenixhealth.net/vitamins-natural-versus-synthetic/#sthash.39AFH0S4.dpuf

        The issue over natural flavours is also addressed here, there is no MSG in Isagenix products:

        http://www.isagenixhealth.net/what-are-natural-flavors/#sthash.39AFH0S4.dpuf

        The non fat milk powder is also non heat to preserve the benefits of this slowly digesting protein to complement the faster digesting undenatured whey protein.

        Let’s mention some of the great ingredients in these shakes while we are examining.

        undenatured whey protein, olive oil, flax seeds, medium chain triglycerides (from coconuts), cinnamon, digestive enzymes, alfalfa leaf, sea salt, pysllium seed, vitamin C, iron, iodine (from kelp), stevia, zinc, wild yam, prebiotics and pro biotics, calcium, vitamin B12, folic acid. You are getting 8 grams of fibre per serving, 24 grams of protein, only 11 grams of natural sugars, no gluten, no soy protein, 21 vitamins and minerals, low glycemic, amazing amino acid profile etc etc. This is their isalean shake their most popular product.

        So many naturopaths, cardiologists, chiropractors, nutritionists, scientists, etc recommend the products. I suggest you do some more research, and contact Isagenix directly to have more questions answered.

        • dani stout Reply

          Yes, soybean oil is toxic, even if it’s non GMO. It is extremely inflammatory, as are ALL vegetable oils. It is high in omega-6 fatty acids and low in omega-3 fatty acids.

          No, we aren’t talking large amount of fructose. But if you’re drinking multiple shakes a day, everyday, it adds up. Same goes for the tricalcium phosphate. Which also would not be a huge issue but it’s isolated and not naturally occurring like it is in milk.

          Agave is extremely high in fructose, it destroys the liver.

          Maltodextrin is a processed food additive. Period.

          Isomaltooligosaccharide is an artificial sweetener that is bleached and uses carcinogens in its processing. It is not a health food.

          Corn is high in phytic acid and enzyme inhibitors. It is extremely irritating to the gut lining. The phytic acid in corn also binds to minerals like iron, magnsium, zinc, etc. and prevents them from being absorbed. This is true of all grains. This is why traditional cultures soaked and sprouted their grains, to reduce the phytic acid content. The bran is the worst part.

          Non-fat anything is processed and not safe to consume.

          You can try to argue your way around the fact that these are toxic, processed ingredients. But that’s what they are and there is no getting around that.

          Any doctor, nutritioist, scientist, etc. recommending these ingredients needs to do research. The ingredients are toxic, unhealthy and processed.

          • Mickhael

            I’ve been enjoying this discourse, its nice if we can stick to logic, but I feel that various people are getting emotional on this issue. Just curious where you have the idea that ALL vegetable oils are inflammatory? At what point? Due to what? There are practically centuries recorded use of olive oil…what part makes it unhealthy?? Is not moderation the key? What makes soybean oil rancid and bad?

            1/4 an apples worth of fructose per shake is nothing, my family has grown apples locally for over 100 years and we are often eating over 6 per day ALL YEAR ROUND, that’s a dozen shakes worth 365 days a year, now obviously there are a lot of factors involved, but JUST that alone suggests that there is more going on, my family all live into their 90’s or older, I doubt that eating that amount of fructose is deleterious to our health. And yes an apple is different then fructose alone…I’m just talking about the sugar amount.

            I think Agave is getting a bit of a bad rep, like ANY sugar, it should be moderately used. Organic, low-heat processed Agave syrup, has not been found to have any ill effects when used in careful moderation to my knowledge (can you point to any studies showing otherwise? ALL sweeteners whether natural or processed, should be used carefully, and we obviously have gotten onto a bad track with putting sugars into 90% of foods, when it should be almost entirely be limited to desserts. Check out this video on some of its effects: http://youtu.be/p9-aleeQ2ho

            I think that we can all be driven crazy by paying too close attention to material details. There are thousands of issues worldwide which are effecting all our health. I know many many doctors and scientists that swear warfare radiation is going to kill us all, wireless technology is killing us all, that manufacturing particles that fill the air is killing us, that HAARP is killing us, and those are all massive environment factors which we can hardly dream of controlling. Yes we should be informed, yes we should eat ABSOLUTELY as close to our own vegetables, from our own garden AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, yes we should be halting the monoculture and commercially grown system which is poisoning so much, yes we need to monitor what we put into our bodies, BUT…We must become aware of that which has the greatest effect, the most detriment AND which is least attended to – That is the power of our thoughts and minds, and how they effect our health and others. This is a sacred power and it can more deeply influence our lives then you may know. I don’t just mean thoughts influencing water, happiness reducing illness or Qi creating incredible physical and mental abilities (all demonstrated by people I personally know)…But beyond that, there are forces which are utilized by the mind which are part of creation and cause people to be ill, that cause the best intentioned people to die and that create wellness in others which seems unbelievable (the chronic drinkers and emotionally terrible people etc.).

            I hope that you continue to prosper on your journey and that you remember that you know very little in the broader sense and have have a lifetime of learning ahead. Don’t worry too much about people here or in real life that nay-say your efforts, keep that beautiful smile on your face and don’t worry, be happy. There is much still to know!

            Thank you for your article 🙂

          • Just as a disclaimer: I have a Bsc (Nutrition) and postgrad dip. (Dietetics) and I know that Isagenix is complete crap.

            I have a similar opinion to Mickhael. You need to be more considered with your use of buzz words like toxic. Moderation is absolutely the key. If you drink too much water it is toxic. Yes maltodextrin is a food additive, one that serves a useful purpose as a thickener in some processed foods. I agree that processed foods should be limited, cooking with unprocessed ingredients is definitely the way to go. But I still eat processed foods in moderation because I enjoy them, and they serve a useful purpose on many occasions. I think you need to improve your understanding of a few nutrition topics (there are many that I need to improve my understanding of also, nutrition is a relatively new science).

            For example:

            Saying that all vegetable oils are “inflammatory” is nonsense. It’s true that omega three fatty acids alter the pathway of eicosanoid production towards less inflammatory forms, and they can be very useful for people in states of chronic inflammation (RA, obesity). But n-6 fatty acids are also an important part of human nutrition. Inflammation is a normal and healthy response to injury and disease, you’re using the word as if it’s an unnatural, evil phenomenon.

            I appreciate that you’re trying to expose this absolutely ridiculous excuse for a nutrition company, and in the scheme of things my position sits 99% towards your side of the scale compared to theirs. I just think you need to update your understanding of some of the nutritional terms you are using.

          • dani stout

            I don’t need to be careful with “buzz words” if they accurately describe something.

            I think you either misunderstand this article, misunderstand nutrition or are just being semantic (but I’m leaning toward semantic).

            Of course inflammation is a normal response, that’s kind of obvious. But you should know that with modern-day diets, stress and sleep, inflammation is rampant. You should also know that due to modern day diet, omega-6 is ubiquitous; in fact people eat way too much omega-6, which leads to inflammation. Inflammation is the basis of all disease. Vegetable oils are extremely high in omega-6, which makes them inflammatory. Which was my original point because these products contain vegetable oils like canola, fractionated palm kernel and sunflower, which are all inflammatory.

          • And, she doubles-down, even after someone “on her side” advises her to dial back the vitriol.

            “Vegetable oils are extremely high in omega-6, which makes them inflammatory.”

            Really? I guess that would be true, if we only ate vegetable oils all day long. Isn’t the point everything in moderation? Didn’t Matt say that Isagenix recommends an Omega-3 supplement to help balance out the vegetable oils?

            I mean, what about a nice salmon steak dressed in olive oil and herbs? “Hmmm, me have Neanderthal brain — nasty plant oil bad!”

            Seems to me, that the more COMPLETE diet, NOT analyzed in isolation and ingredient-by-ingredient, might actually be pretty darn healthy. And that’s exactly the way ANY diet should be analyzed…in totality, as a system — because that’s how your body is going to react to it.

          • dani stout

            Haha so wait, Isagenix recommends buying their omega-3 supplement to balance out the fact that they use rancid, omega-6 rich vegetable oils in their products?

            GENIUS!

            Now THAT’S marketing.

        • As a qualified Nutritionist and Dietitian, I resent being thrown in to the same category as a naturapath, and I have cardiologist colleagues that would feel the same way.

          • dani stout

            Well don’t you think that’s kind of rude to naturopaths?

          • bee valentine

            Luke, Doctors of Naturopathy are registered practitioners and their recognized services are covered under group health insurance plans in Canada. In Europe, where they are even more highly esteemed, and specifically in Germany, they work alongside oncologists to help battle cancer by using multi-disciple approaches to saving lives. On the other hand, while my husband endured 6 months of chemotherapy for stage 3 cancer, the hospital dietitian provide a toxic list of antiquated notions of supposedly healthy foods. It was the 1950’s all over again. Thanks to our naturopathic doctor, who helped fortify and sustain my husband’s immune system and the elimination of inflammatory foods, he is, at the moment, cancer free. I think that if you have had the good fortune to be “thrown in to the same category as a naturopath”, your reputation will benefit.

          • dani stout

            That’s amazing! So happy for you and your husband.

    • Concered Person Reply

      I had to stop reading this at they don’t use synthetic vitamins…Really? What is Cyanocobalamin B12 then? So either your company just lies….or they just lie! It is the cheapest and worse form of B12. Come on take the emotion out of this. People buy into a company because they either want it to be their path to riches or they really believe the info being told to them. I get it! Once you think about it and remove yourself from their story you will find the truth. I wont promote the company I support in our clinic due to how crazy people get but I will suggest you DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH with an open mind!

  20. Matt Wilson Reply

    Dani the post about Tricalcium prosphate on webMD, is for severe overdoses. You can die from drinking too much water, you can overdose on anything.

    It talks about sources being from cosmetics and cement, so it may not even be referring to food grade level which is found naturally in cows milk and some isagenix products.

  21. Matt Wilson Reply

    Dani, you mention you have an issue with the non GMO soybean oil which for the record is in 1 out of 47 products available by Isagenix. Yet elsewhere on your blog you mention that you have no problem with fermented soy to another poster as the phytic acid is reduced through fermentation. There is no soy protein in any of the isagenix products which contains the phytic acid. Obviously the form of ingredients plays a part, which you yourself have acknowledged in this post http://ancestral-nutrition.com/basics/

    • dani stout Reply

      Not sure of your point. Fermented non-gmo soy is okay in limited quanitities, they way Asian cultures eat it (ie: as a condiment, not as a staple). Soybean oil is a rancid oil high in omega-6 fatty acids. They’re completely different.

      • Matt Wilson Reply

        The point is that you are scare mongering. Soybean oil is in one product, you make it sound like soy is a staple ingredient in the isagenix products from your initial post. It isn’t. There is no soybean protein which has the phytic acid.

  22. Matt Wilson Reply

    You may like to post the nutrition panels along with the ingredients. For instance the “toxic agave” that’s “loaded with fructose” is in the slim cakes. This product has a total sugar amount of only 4 grams. This includes the sugar from the cranberries and sugar. So the amount from the organic agave is minuscule. You really have to put things in perspective. If you were drinking a bottle of organic agave everyday you might have problems:)

      • Matt Wilson Reply

        Dani, you like in your references above to Sunflower oil which is high in omega 6 fatty acids. Isagenix uses “high-oleic sunflower oil” along with cold processed olive oil and alpha-linolenic acid from flax seeds as the main sources of fats. Consumptions of which has been linked with better control of blood pressure and heart health. More details at:
        http://www.isagenixhealth.net/seven-ways-to-love-your-heart-with-isagenix-products/
        http://foodwatch.com.au/blog/fats-and-oils/item/q-what-is-hi-oleic-sunflower-oil-3.html

        • dani stout Reply

          No, Isagenix uses sunflower oil, not high oleic sunflower oil.

          This is clearly stated on the ingredient labels. If it were high oleic, it would say so on the ingredients. Please refer back to the SlimCake, vanilla shake and black sesame shake I posted. The article you linked to provided no relevant information.

          Furthermore, if Isagenix is so healthy, please explain the following (toxic) oils in the ingredients:

          fractionated palm kernel oil
          soybean oil
          canola oil
          corn oil

          And would you also comment on the use of MSG in the new soup products?

          • Matt Wilson

            Dani, The article I linked to specifically stated the use of high oleic sunflower oil in the isalean shakes. As far as the slim cakes go, there is no sunflower oil in them, other NON Hydrogenated oils are used. The key word here being non-hydrogenated! There is no soy no canola no corn oil and no palm oil in the shakes it’s in a few of the snack products, and palm oil has very many health benefits similar to that found in coconut oil.

          • Matt Wilson

            Stating there is MSG in the new soup product is misleading, false and opens you up to libel. There is no MSG in the product, it would state MSG or flavour enhancer 627 if there was MSG in the product.

          • dani stout

            It’s only libel if I’m lying about something.

            It’s literally a fact that MSG is in the new soup product.

            Check it out here: http://isagenix.com/us/en/isaleansoups.dhtml

            What’s the ingredient right after maltodextrin and salt? Autolyzed yeast extract, also known as MSG.

      • Matt Wilson Reply

        Where is your source that small amount of minimally processed organic agave is toxic. This has been debunked. Dr Mercola and others jumped on this from one energy drink vendor Russ Bianchi. If agave nectar is really that harmful, where are the references to credible, peer-reviewed studies?

  23. Thank you for posting this. I agree with the questionable ingredients. It is interesting the way that the questions you posed were answered with the descriptive nature of the ingredients but not the nutritional benefits. There is nothing beneficial about fructose, seed oils (highly processed) or corn for sure.

    I have acquaintances and friends who are either trying to sell it to me or have tried it. Some swear by it to which I say “do whatever works for you.” Others have had unpleasant experiences…and I am saying that kindly.

    Bottom line for me: 1.) It is a processed product. This is not REAL WHOLE FOOD…it is created in a lab. 2.) I prefer to eat my food versus drink it. Why do I have teeth and a digestive system? You can’t live on just shakes. Well, I can’t.

    Thank you!!!!

    • dani stout Reply

      Yes, exactly! No one can give me a response as to how these questionable ingredients are actually beneficial.

      Great comment, thanks Linda!

      • you noted in previous comments that people should not use Isagenix in there referrals. However reading above you yourself just used an Isagenix link.

    • Matt Wilson CLEARLY did exactly that! EXplanied your issues with each one of your ‘so called’ toxic ingredients causing you to label Isagenix as unhealthy and bad! : soybean oil, fructose, agave, maltodextrin, Isomaltooligosaccharide, corn, tricalcium phosphate
      He mentions them in order and explains each one – very well – very well done. He ACTUALLY did the research – you obviously didn’t – just spouted off ingredients that you decided were unhealthy and wrote of the product and the company on that basis – doing many people who would other wise be helped by Isagenix a disservice – and therefore a disservice to others that might otherwise be helped gain their health and life back through Isagenix ….
      Well laid out and the science documented by a link at the end of each ingredient showing the reason of why the choice in that particular ingredient. Isagenix obviously had all the answers to your “concerns” about these products if you had bothered to do proper research.

      Dani you obviously got a clear answer, here, and no longer know what to reply! So you are mindlessly repeating the same thing and not acknowledging when you have been given a clear and informed answer.

      • dani stout Reply

        Arguing a point does not make a point correct. Matt argued his points, and they were wrong. Factually, his points were not correct from a nutritional standpoint.

        Soybean oil is extremely inflammatory and high in omega-6 fatty acids. It’s also one of the most genetically modified crops and is processed with hexane, a neurotoxin. Agave is extremely high in fructose, not to mention that fructose is also added to these products. Fructose is toxic to the liver. Corn bran is extremely hard on the digestive tract, any bran is. Majority of corn is genetically modified. And might I remind you that these products are not certified GM-free in the US.

        Isagenix, nor any Isagenix supporter, can support these ingredients, claim they are health foods or justify why they are in the products. Because when it comes down to it, these are all cheap, toxic, processed ingredients.

  24. Here’s what Isagenix says about their products being non-GMO, you will also note that they do not use synthetics, another false statement from your post:

    Thank you for contacting Isagenix through our Health Blog, http://www.IsagenixHealth.net. Please note the information on our website and in the below e-mail response is intended as educational and to support, not replace, your relationship with a personal physician.

    Our products are considered all-natural using only non-GMO ingredients. They also contain organic ingredients wherever possible, and some ingredients that even exceed USDA organic standards. However, some of our ingredients are sourced from parts of the world that do not have organic certification systems.

    To be sure of bioavailability and potency, Isagenix provides ingredients either present in natural form or derived from natural food sources. We do not use any artificial or synthetic ingredients. In addition, Isagenix provides vitamins that are consistently tested for stability, purity, safety and efficacy. Each vitamin is evaluated using United States Pharmacopoeia standards or higher. They are sourced only from highly reputable suppliers with an excellent track record of meeting and exceeding cGMP guidelines.

    For more information, please refer to the following articles posted on our health blog, http://www.IsagenixHealth.net:

    Are Isagenix Products Free of GM Ingredients? Answer: Yes

    What It Means to Have “No Compromise” Quality

    We hope this information is helpful. Be sure to add http://www.IsagenixHealth.net to your Internet favorites and check back often for new articles. You can also follow Isagenix Health on Facebook and Twitter.

    To your health,

    Jose H.
    Isagenix Health
    Isagenix International, LLC
    http://www.Isagenix.com

    • dani stout Reply

      My point is that the products are not GMO-free certified.

      They do use synthetics. What do you think isomaltooligosaccharide? Do you think that occurs in nature? No, it’s make in a lab.

  25. If you are trying to endorse a whey only supplement as a substitute for a protein based MEAL REPLACEMENT as part of complete program including supplements then you have failed. Isagenix does, in fact, have a whey only NON GMO, UNdenatured product as well called isapro, however, the shakes you are reviewing are not this product (though they are also fabulous if you take the time to find out the source of the ingredients). You are clearly trying to stir the pot because you don’t like programs like this. I believe in real food, but I also find nothing wrong with this particular program. They are not all created equal. If you are going to say that even though the products are stated non GMO that they likely aren’t, then how can you not think the same for the things you eat? If it says non GMO then it should be assumed it is, as far as we know (unless there is a situation like the GMO wheat in which no one is aware, but it is unfair to assume this). In all honesty I think you are trying to use the big name of Isagenix to draw attention to your blog so you can get more sponsorship. Blogs are nothing but marketing tools for your own interest in the same way you are trying to say these programs are.

    • dani stout Reply

      People have asked me to review the products. I did so because people who don’t know any better fall for these “healthy” meal replacements.

      These products are not certified non-GMO.

      “If you are going to say that even though the products are stated non GMO that they likely aren’t, then how can you not think the same for the things you eat?”

      Great point! This is why I avoid the top 10 GMOs, which include soy, corn, canola, cottonseed. Even certified non-GMO products that are heavy in these crops have turned out to be contaminated with GMOs. So I just don’t go near any of it.

      I don’t need more sponsorship. Blogs are marketing tools and mine is no different. But I wrote this because I had so many questions about it, and because it is marketed as a healthy product, and it’s not.

  26. Matt Wilson Reply

    If Isagenix products were so unhealthy you wouldn’t have people lowering their cholesterol, lowering diabetes medications, coming off blood pressure, antidepressants etc etc Obviously all in consultation with their doctors, who are amazed at how healthy they are and what great work isagenix did in their body, allowing the body to heal itself, cleansing out the toxins. Speaking of toxins, the isagenix system is designed to do just that. A good video showing this at the blood level by Jim Rhoades is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BesUttqdy2w
    More on the very qualified Jim here http://dev.healthinyourlife.com/sites/default/files/7%20problems%201%20solution%20by%20Jim%20Rhoades.pdf

    • dani stout Reply

      Matt, you misunderstand a huge component of detoxification. The body cannot be adequately detoxed it you’re putting toxins into your body.

      That’s what fructose, agave, fractionated palm kernel oil, soybean oil, etc are.

      They are food toxins.

      The other things you mention are anecdotal. If someone switches from eating McDonald’s and Burger King to Isagenix and starts paying attention to their overall food intake, yes, they will improve their health markers all around. But that doesn’t make Isagenix ideal, it doesn’t even make Isagenix healthy. It just makes Isagenix healthier than the previor poor diet.

      • Sorry Dani what rubbish you can’t provide any studies that agave is toxic? Now fructose is a toxin found naturally in fruit!

          • Matt Wilson

            The second link you provide by David Despain is the science and communications spokesperson for Isagenix, what irony. Now he would be a good person to contact to raise your concerns:): This link doesn’t support your argument at all. quoting the first paragraph “It was the most recent of several review papers to conclude that fructose is probably not inherently fattening in humans, but that it can be fattening if it’s consumed to excess, due to the added calories”

          • dani stout

            What’s ironic then is that the spokeperson for this product knows how toxic these ingredients and yet still supports it; I guess money really can buy anything.

            So does that mean you only read one link? I know supporting these products requires a lot of oversight, but do you care to comment on the links to PubMed regarding how toxic fructose is?

          • No, it’s completely ironic. Because while the title has the words “bad” and “fructose” in them, the article in no way is demonizing fructose.

            It is talking about the overconsumption of fructose, and especially when used in large amounts in beverages and sweets. Because when found in fruits, there is fibre and other nutrients/bulk to help balance out the sugar (and also slow its absorption), as well as reduce the likelihood of overconsumption — because you’ll feel full faster eating an apple than drinking a Coke.

            Matt, through reading these comments, I’ve come to the conclusion that our blogger here is not so good at doing research, as she couldn’t even suss out the meaning from the relatively short article.

            She also can’t concede a point when she’s lost, and instead just beats the drum harder. You and others have made it clear that the amount of fructose in these shakes is actually LESS than an apple serving, yet that isn’t enough for her. It is still “fructose”, and “fructose bad!”

            It’s sad, really…

          • dani stout

            I think two things are sad here: that you’ve left over ten comments on this article in a very short span of time and that you and other Isagenix pushers apparently are unable to comprehend basic English. Let me reiterate, yet again.

            I’ve clearly stated that fructose is fine in small amounts. Isagenix users have stated that the shakes are low in fructose. Then I point out that if you’re drinking several of these shakes a day, everyday, and still likely obtaining fructose from food, that’s when it become an issue.

      • dani stout Reply

        So the opinion of one doctor makes all animal studies irrelevant? That’s ridiculous!

        Your blatant rejection of fact and science is astounding to me. And kind of exhausting.

        • Matt Wilson Reply

          This from David’s excellent blog http://evolvinghealthscience.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/videos-of-eb2012-sugar-showdown.html
          “After speaking with him, I gathered that Dr. Lustig and Dr. Sievenpieper actually do tend to agree more than disagree on the data. For example, Dr. Lustig told me that he understood full well that the animal data and ecological analyses shouldn’t be used for arguing his position that fructose is a unique metabolic danger. He also agreed that answers needed to come from randomized controlled feeding trials in humans, which is really what Dr. Sievenpiper’s research has been about.

          So far, the meta-analyses and systematic reviews on randomized, placebo-controlled feeding trials comparing fructose to other carbohydrates have not revealed to have any quantitatively meaningful metabolic effects. That is, fructose has demonstrated no significant effect on body weight, blood pressure, or uric acid in calorie-controlled trials. On the other hand, fructose demonstrated improvement of glycemic control at levels comparable to that obtained in fruit.

          What Dr. Lustig and Dr. Sievenpiper obviously do disagree on is in their choice of rhetoric. Dr. Lustig’s uses with words like “toxic,” “addictive,” and purposely compares the fruit sugar’s metabolism to that of alcohol. Dr. Sievenpiper is more reserved, suggesting that fructose (like anything else) can be beneficial at some levels, such as in amounts found in fruit, and harmful only at extremely high levels (even then, not any different than other sources of carbohydrate)”

    • dani stout Reply

      Matt, I think I told you this earlier.

      It not legit in a debate to link as a reference to the very company that is trying to sell the product you’re debating about. Isagenixhealth.net is NOT a legitimate resource, please stop linking to it.

      • Matt Wilson Reply

        here’s the references Sievenpiper JL, de Souza RJ, Mirrahimi A et al. Effect of Fructose on Body Weight in Controlled Feeding Trials: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis. Ann Intern Med 2012;156:291-304.

        Sievenpiper JL, Chiavaroli L, de Souza RJ et al. ‘Catalytic’ doses of fructose may benefit glycaemic control without harming cardiometabolic risk factors: a small meta-analysis of randomised controlled feeding trials. Br J Nutr 2012;1-6. doi: 10.1017/S000711451200013X

        Ha V, Sievenpiper JL, de Souza RJ et al. Effect of Fructose on Blood Pressure: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Controlled Feeding Trials. Hypertension 2012. doi: 10.1161/?HYPERTENSIONAHA.111.182311

        Lustig RH, Schmidt LA, Brindis CD. “Public health: The toxic truth about sugar.” Nature 482, 27-29 (02 February 2012). doi: 10.1038/482027a

        Sievenpiper JL, de Souza RJ, Jenkins DJA. “Sugar: fruit fructose is still healthy.” Correspondence. Nature 482, 470 (23 February 2012) doi: 10.1038/482470e

        • dani stout Reply

          ALL of these are from Dr. Sievenpiper except the one from Dr. Lustig, who maintains that fructose is toxic.

          Tip: when arguing a point, you need several, independent studies. Not different studies from one doctor.

          PS – none of these address the main issue with fructose, which is that it’s toxic to the liver.

      • IF they lied they would get shut down. I could care less about what you think but, as a fitness competitor I do eat Really Clean! When I added these shakes into my program it only made my body respond so much better. I eat 6 times a day 2 of them being shakes. I am in the BEST shape of my life. I look and feel younger. Seriously, it enhanced the great nutrition I was already having. I love that you are all about whole foods, but wow. I know you will copy and paste your statement on answer me why they put those ingredients in. Matt already covered that. But I know someone will be contacting you from Isagenix soon. Its fine to have an opinion but full on disregard all the data that shows different about it being unhealthy is not right. The undeniable fact of so many people having results where health was turned around tremendously. With blood test work and everything . Not everyone is about weightloss and fat loss. Some are strictly for their last hope. And some is simply to supplement their already clean diet. Like me.

  27. Matt Wilson Reply

    You have linked to a google patent to outline a process by which Isomaltooligosaccharide CAN BE MADE. This is not necessarily the process that the Isomaltooligosaccharide has undergone in the Isagenix products. It can be made by enzymes or fungal means also, not just with Nickel. An example of fungal means from rice and cassava is http://resjournal.kku.ac.th/abstract/17_5_794.pdf

    • dani stout Reply

      Yes, it is. Isagenix uses BioNeutra which is what I linked to.

      Your own argument admits that Isagenix uses processed, toxic ingredients.

      • Matt Wilson Reply

        I don’t know that Isagenix uses BioNeutra, can you provide proof of this? Also I can’t find the word Nickel anywhere in that pdf you linked too?

  28. Matt Wilson Reply

    More details that Isomaltooligosaccharide can be made through natural enzymatic means is found on one of the manufacturers websites here http://www.bioneutra.ca/faq.htm “BioNeutra produces VitaFiber™-IMO via highly controlled natural enzyme-catalyzed process transforming starch molecules into functional health molecules of IMO. Our natural manufacturing process … without any chemical modification involved… natural food ingredient”

  29. Matt Wilson Reply

    I just noticed you are plugging Honey with a link to Amazon. The same article from Dr Mercola you referenced on the toxicity of fructose specifically recommends to avoid honey due to the high amount of fructose. So honey is fine by not Agave. that’s contradictory!

  30. Matt Wilson Reply

    The equivalent to the undenatured whey protein you are selling and making a commission from amazon would be the Isa Pro, http://www.isagenix.com/us/en/isapro.dhtml
    It’s just the undenatured whey protein, added lactase enzyme to help body deal with remaining small amount of lactose, stevia, ionic alfafa (70 trace natural minerals), natural vanilla flavour. That’s it!

  31. Dani,
    You really have me confused. “Fructose” is on your toxic list. Honey contains fructose. So is honey toxic or not? Or are you saying that it is only toxic in large amounts in which then you would be agreeing with Matt. If that’s the case, then the fructose in Isagenix would be beneficial because of the low amounts.

    • dani stout Reply

      Agave is around 90% fructose. Compare this to honey, which is about 30-40% fructose. Next, compare the fact that on Isagenix, you’re not only consuming regular amount of agave, but also isolated fructose. It’s a double whammy for the liver.

      THEN, compare this to a well balanced diet of someone who is eating a minimal amount of honey (which has other beneficial properties) a few times a week.

      By eating Isagenix, a person is consuming a LOT more fructose than someone sparingly eating raw, organic honey.

      • Matt Wilson Reply

        Not true Dani. Good pick up Emma! A person eating a mainly organic diet with lots of fresh fruit and veges could be eating just as much fructose through the fruit they eat, if not more. I have already explained the low sugar levels in the isagenix products, 11gs in the shake, The swiss study I linked to mention that it could be dangerous at high levels like more than 100grams per day!

        • dani stout Reply

          But that is one product. If someone is drinking multiple shakes a day as well as eating the FiberSnacks, they are ingesting a lot more fructose.

          For reference, a cup of raspberries contains 3 grams of fructose.

          And furthermore, there are much more nutrient dense (whole, unprocessd) foods a person could be eating than these shakes/snacks.

  32. So again, my question is… “Is fructose toxic?” Because originally, you claimed that there was no question about fructose being toxic. Now it seems you are addressing it as being “toxic” in certain amounts. Does quantity matter? Could that also be the case for some of the other “toxic” ingredients you mentioned? Could you agree that that fructose is beneficial and necessary?

    • dani stout Reply

      I clearly stated that the miniscule amounts in fruit is fine, though I do not advocate high or even moderate fruit consumption. Quantity does matter, especially when we’re talking about a sweetener that is 90% fructose and isolated fructose.

      Fructose is aboslutely not necessary. Glucose is necessary.

    • dani stout Reply

      Yes, and did you see this across the top of the page:

      Organic Agave Cactus Nectar, light, 90% fructose

  33. Matt Wilson Reply

    I am going to say goodbye Dani. I hope people reading this are encouraged to do their own research as I certainly would not like them to rely on yours. Goodbye.

    • dani stout Reply

      I agree! People should absolutely do their own research and not rely on mine, or yours, or even the info that Isagenix provides.

      Nice talkin’ to you!

  34. Dani this is a statement you made.
    “That’s what fructose, agave, fractionated palm kernel oil, soybean oil, etc are.

    They are food toxins.

    Matt said it best!

    “So now fructose is a toxin found naturally in fruit.”

    So Dani, is fruit toxic?
    If your reply is yes, I may in some cases have to agree with you, but it is surely not the fructose in that little apple I’m worried about.

    • dani stout Reply

      Yes, generally speaking fructose is toxic. Are you going to immediately develop fatty liver disease beacuse you ate an apple? No.

      Plants do contain toxins (for example kale is high in oxalates, rice is high in phytic acid). Does this make them unhealthy? Definitely not.

      The problem is when these things are consumed in large amounts. And the problem with Isagenix is the agave as well as the isolated fructose. It is not at all similar to eating the naturally occurring fructose in fruits.

  35. This only concludes that i should stay clear from slurpees, not Isagenix shakes and other Isagenix products. I only wish I can be as confident in my “whole food” consumption from organic farms and grocery stores as I am with my consumption of Isagenix products. Their “No Compromise” quality policy is so extensive and thorough. I know that the products are pure, safe and beneficial. We are so unaware of what is in our food supply these days, it’s scary! I am so thankful that Isagenix goes above and beyond in testing all products.

    • dani stout Reply

      That just doesn’t make sense to me. So you avoid eating whole, organic, unprocessed foods because you’re not confident in them?

      But you’re confident in a product with rancid vegetable oils, toxic sweeteners and processed ingredients? I’d say that’s what’s scary.

    • dani stout Reply

      I only wish I can be as confident in my “whole food” consumption from organic farms and grocery stores as I am with my consumption of Isagenix products.”

      This statement suggests you choose Isagenix over whole foods. Not all the time obviously, I doubt you consume Isagenix products for each meal.

  36. Ok. Glad we cleared that up. However, I consume both equally and it’s not about choosing one over the other honestly. That is not what I was suggesting. I still love my veggies and fruits and meats and lentils. But yes, I am more confident in the quality, and purity and nutritional value in the Isagenix products because of the extensive testing and research that’s done. Isagenix’s vision is to impact world health. You and Isagenix are essentially on the same team really. Please bring your concerns directly to the company as you were not satisfied with any answers here. I was thankful for this blog as I learned so much. Cheers to great health!

  37. Obviously the people who use this product are way more educated on it than Herbalife. Interesting read.

  38. Hi everyone,

    I know Dani keeps saying, “Please explain to me how soybean oil, isolated fructose, synthetic vitamins, gluten, etc. are good for you? – See more at: http://ancestral-nutrition.com/isagenix-is-unhealthy/#sthash.EG07tCXR.dpuf

    I think Dani is missing something here and she should be talking to Dr. Paul Anderson and the other scientists from Isagenix to get her answers instead of on a blog. Very tacky. If you are that sure you are right then go to the source of the products. Ask the hard questions. These people are very available and will speak to her. Once she has talked to them and she has the answers then put it on a blog. It makes me wonder about her motives are!

    • dani stout Reply

      Gladys, you clearly misunderstood why I was asking people to explain to me how soybean oil, isolated fructose, synthetic vitamins, gluten, etc are healthy. My point is that they are not healthy, so this cannot be explained. My point is that Isagenix uses these toxic ingredients (most likely because they’re extremely cheap). I know why these products are unhealthy, but clearly Isagenix users have no knowledge of actual nutrition.

      Wait…so writing a review on Isagenix on my blog is tacky? You realize I am a BLOGGER? That is literally my job. What a ridiculous comment.

      I don’t need to contact Dr. Paul Andeson or any other scientists from Isagenix. Why would I waste my time? They use toxic ingredients, that is a fact. Soybean oil, isolated fructose, fractionated palm kernel oil, gluten, etc are all toxic ingredients. My “motives” are educating people on this fact.

      • I think the bottom line is that people are offended when people shed light on products that they love…..it’s almost like attacking the personality traits of a relative.

        Facts are facts……if they list them on their ingredient list, then they’re in the damn products by their own admission! If you want to consume those things, have at it! If it works for you and you’re not afraid of the long-term consequences then wonderful; more power to you.

        I have friends that are very devoted to Isagenix, and I don’t yet have an opinion on the actual products, other than I’m leery of the consuming the ingredients mentioned. However, what is irritating and turns me off to the company is that the “research” and the “formulas” and it’s supporters are all tied to the company!

        Dani, you provided an unbiased approach and reveal of what is included in Isagenix. I appreciate that.

        I’d be more inclined to use Isagenix if ANYONE could even respond to your question about the toxic ingredients. I addressed one person about it and their response, for example, was that Agave nectar is a healthy ingredient. That just tells me that they’ve also been “sold” into the Isagenix sales pitch without doing their own research, and I find that very disheartening.

        • dani stout Reply

          Exactly!

          “However, what is irritating and turns me off to the company is that the “research” and the “formulas” and it’s supporters are all tied to the company!”

          I completely agree. It’s not independent research.

          Thanks so much for the comment, I appreciate it!

      • I went through the ingredients in the Isagenix products and could not find one of the ones you mentioned. Please tell us which of the Isagenix products they are in.

        • dani stout Reply

          I linked directly to the products that contain these ingredients, so I’m not sure what you mean. They’re literally on the ingredients list, maybe read through them again?

      • Dani, You are 100% correct about your research. I am an EX Isagenix cult member. I, thankfully, escaped only losing one body organ to this product (my gallbladder). Thank you for all the information you are providing. You have to know sweetie that Isagenix has watch dogs all over the internet to lash out at any naysayers and they even go as far as having negative comments and reviews removed/hidden.

        • dani stout Reply

          I’m so sorry about your gallbladder! But thank you so much for the comment, I really appreciate it.

          • Wow I am kind of stunned after reading Cara’s post, as just in the past few weeks an acquaintance of mine who has been using Isagenix for almost 2 years revealed that she had her gallbladder removed this past spring. I just thought she had ongoing health issues from way before, but now I wonder…coincidence…? Scary.

  39. Hi Dani,
    Great post! Half of my facebook feed is inundated with people promoting this product, who are completely brainwashed (more apparent from the replies above).

    I’m on a mission to do my own before and after pics – which will involve eating healthy foods and exercising to prove to people that you don’t need a ‘wonder product’ to look great, nor do you need to pay anything other than a normal grocery shop to achieve it. I’ve always been slim thanks to regular exercise and involvement in sport but I’m keen to prove to people that if I want to get great abs I can increase my exercise and reduce my carb intake.

    Good luck with the rest of the haters 😉

    Jade

    • dani stout Reply

      That’s awesome, Jade! I wish more people realized they could accomplish their goals by eat whole, unprocessed foods and that you don’t need to spend money on this junk. You got this!!

      PS – my middle name is Jade.

  40. Dani– I appreciate your review and comments in the long debate. I have a friend selling this program and after my recent awakening to the power of food I felt this program is another fad diet. Multi-Level Marketing is also a huge turn-off. Because of this article I plan to follow your future reviews. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!!!!

  41. I have read all of the essays put out by Isagenix because someone close to me is involved with the company. I have written to its higher-level employees with questions and received replies. I have watched their videos, listened to their podcasts. My conclusion is that the folks who control this company are dishonest and so are their stated scientists. I do not believe that their products, if consumed on a short-term basis for the purpose of either losing weight or kick-starting one’s diet to a more disciplined daily regimen, place the consumer at any real risk. And I’m not sure if the Isagenix products place anyone at risk who eats a meal per day of real (actual) food. What is pathetic and sad about this company is the the untested claims it makes to sell its product. When I say “untested,” I mean not tested by an independent third party. Isagenix, and only Isagenix, says it tests its products (“really we do, I swear,” to quote a recent podcast narrated by an Isagenix “pro”). The company operates within the law — just.

  42. krystlehope Reply

    Dani, thank you for posting such a well-researched article, and I’m sorry that the Isagenix lemmings jumped on you for exposing the truth. Posting ingredients right off their websites is not false information, unless the website is a liar itself. Isagenix is GMO free in SOME COUNTRIES but it has NOT been officially verified as GMO-free for the US. Also, they are not certified organic and by reading the ingredient list it is pretty obvious why. The ingredients don’t lie. For those that are arguing should take a REAL nutrition class. Did you know that Isagenix is calling their representatives “health and wellness coaches”? However, they don’t offer any nutritional coaching, just promote the Isagenix products. It’s absolutely despicable.

  43. Former Isa-user Reply

    Good review. Watch out though- you’ll have all the Isagenix brainwashed loonies after you. It’s useless to present facts to them..they’re in serious denial. They defend this that they themselves don’t really fully understand or know..and they believe everything! wake up people- it’s processed food!

    I’ve used the products before -never sold them as MLM are just tacky IMO- and I have to say there is a lot of very misinformed, fanatical weirdness going on with it. I think a lot of the people who are fanatical about it, are not very educated in general- that is what I noticed across the board with them. But that’s maybe also why, they’ve fallen into it so deeply.

    • What exactly is tacky about an MLM? It is the best business plan out there for the ordinary person to make money based on their performance.

  44. This idiot Dani charges over $1000 a month for coaching. What other way to get hits to her page then to mention popular programs like isagenix or herbalife…. Great google organic search tactic…. Clever cookie… knows anything about health or nutrtion, not at all!!!!

    • dani stout Reply

      I’m the idiot and yet you cannot even properly read a price list. Funny how that works. I don’t charge anywhere near $1000 a month for coaching.

      Instead of name calling, why not provide an actual rebuttal? For example, maybe you could explain to me what NO other Isagenix supporter has EVER been able to:

      How is soy good for you?
      How is denatured protein good for you?
      How are rancid vegetable oils good for you?
      How is fractionated palm kernel oil good for you?
      How is gluten good for you?

  45. Wow.

    Interesting reading.

    I won’t ever use Isagenix and I don’t even have to do any research to figure that one out. It isn’t food. It is fake crap. Really – it’s that simple. To be healthy, eat real food. Saves a heap of time arguing about fructose/natural flavours/fractionated palm kernel oil etc.

      • Edgardo Bernabe Reply

        Dani not only are you a beatiful person outside but inside more I have a thyroid problem(hashi) and I read every day in the last 3 years+ and you are right . Soy ( Soy Alert) Weston Price.org The endocrine system is easily disrupted and your metabolism is afected(soy) . These people need to do the research in the right places to understand the real thing. They have the Fox in custody of the chickens. jijijijiji Not only that when I cut the Gluten(Eat gluten and your inmune system attack the Thyroid) My dermatitis is cured 98%(Jesus the dermatologist do not know that) I discover the connection in the book the Gluten Connection(Shari Lieberman) I so on continue whith mission put light in the places where dark is present(Is your mission in life and mine)

        • dani stout Reply

          Thank you! I’m glad you’re managing your thyroid with diet!

    • You are sadly misinformed. Isagenix is 100% real food. There is nothing “fake” or “crap” about the system. The woman who posted this article has extreme views that are also supplied by misinformation.

      If you are serious about your health, you would be aware of the issue of toxicity. The core Isagenix products targets toxicity to allow the body to function as it should. John Anderson, the formulator behind the product, has worked for several decades and for over 600 supplement companies. He knows what he is doing and what should be going into the human body. I’m sorry but I can’t argue with that sort of expertise.

      To be honest no one actually cares that people like you and the writer of this blog criticise Isagenix because you are ultimately the ones who are missing out on having a body that feels and functions as it should.

      Raw, vegan, organic or whatever other ridiculous diet people do these days simply won’t cut it in a toxic environment.

      • dani stout Reply

        How is soy oil good for you?
        How is gluten good for you?
        How is an indentured protein good for you?
        How are inflammatory, processed oils good for you?

        And how do you get olive oil into powder form?!

  46. I appreciate your articles on these 2 popular mlm’s. My sister just started selling one and a coworker another. I let them both know I would HV to do my research prior to having an opinion on either of them. But I find it funny that most of the people that commented didn’t take the easy route of clicking the hyperlinks that you posted prior to attacking you for not doing your research. Irony is clearly defined in the bulk of those comments. Don’t drink the koolaid kids.

  47. Saw this post on your Facebook page, I can’t believe all the criticism you got for it! I just wrote a very similar ingredient-by-ingredient critique of Slim-Fast. The biggest problem with these products, I think, is that the high level of processing exposes them to high levels of heat and other oxidative stressors. Never mind that soybean, sunflower, and canola oils aren’t good to use for cooking due to their high omega-6 content – the processing techniques are likely to oxidize the fragile omega-3 fats contained in them. That’s probably the worst part about them.

    Here’s more info about that for anyone interested: http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/precious-yet-perilous

    My question is this – how do you turn oil into a powder? That sesame shake has “sunflower oil powder” and “olive oil powder” as two of its ingredients… can someone explain the processing that is used to turn an oil into a powder? Just sounds sketchy to me.

    Don’t worry about the criticism, Dani. Anyone blogging about anything controversial is bound to get criticized. I’ve been told I look like a dead jellyfish… agh, the perks of blog ownership, eh? 🙂

    -Laura from Ancestralize Me

    • PS – This is from Chris’s blog that I linked to:

      “PUFAs (polyunsaturated fatty acids) are uniquely vulnerable to oxidation because they are the only fatty acids with two or more double bonds, and it is the carbon that lies directly between two double bonds that is vulnerable to oxidation at physiological temperatures.”

      Hence why omega-6 PUFAs like canola, soybean, and sunflower oil exposed to high-temperature processing is not something we should be putting into our bodies. That alone would suggest the product is not ideal.

    • dani stout Reply

      Just read your response to that US News report and love it. I was so furious when I found out they ranked paleo so poorly, especially compared to other diets!

      I was wondering about the process of turning oil into a powder too, I can’t imagine. Super sketchy.

      Thanks for you comment, I’m definitely learning to develop a thicker skin. A dead jellyfish though? People are nuts.

  48. Dani,
    These are all trolls from that company ganging up on you. I’m certain you got through to your real readers. Thanks for all the great info you provide FOR FREE via this blog!

  49. Wow – the ignorance level in these comments is absolutely astonishing. Thank you Dani for pointing out the obvious. Anything processed and put into your body can be unhealthy and dangerous! All of the cited research and development into packaged food is PAID FOR. That alone should make your skin crawl. That isnt food, its a food replacement. And the argument about not being able or having the time to prepare whole food… that is simply a choice. People will do what they feel is important, anything less and its just an excuse. Hold your head high Dani!

  50. Hello,

    Amid the negative comments on this article, I’d like to thank you for showing me the things I think some people should realize about this sort of products. Recently my mother purchased Isagenix products without telling me and I was skeptical (as I always am with supposedly ‘healthy’ shakes and snacks from MLM companies) of what the ingredients were. I hated soy and whey for starters, and I always consume them on the minimum. But the rest…wow. Not only have I never heard of them, despite studying advanced chemistry back in my college years, but the amount of it in one sachet…

    One of things that worried me about these chemicals is the effects it’ll give to my organs, especially the liver because hell no are all those shit are going to be absorbed and either way, it’ll definitely stress out my liver.

    I tried to tell my mother about the dangers of the things in Isagenix, and perhaps try to convince her to try my diet (Paleo) but she wouldn’t listen. So for now, I will have to pretend to be drinking all those disgusting shakes and hope the damage it might possess in the long term won’t stay too long in me.

    I’m sorry, Isagenix lovers. But if one should lose weight and cleanse your body, it’s only to not overeat, eat healthy and exercise. Let your body do the rest. I believe that’s the very best way.

  51. Hello Dani

    I believe in open and honest exchanges without aggressiveness, abusive language, or cheap shots. With that in mind, I have crafted a response for you and your readers to review and consider.

    You state that the ingredients below are common and you provide some screen shots of ingredient lists.

    Note: I have reordered your list a little to provide continuity with the response below.

    rancid vegetable oils
    gluten
    agave syrup
    soy
    isolated fructose
    fractionated palm kernel oil
    corn
    additives
    synthetic vitamins and minerals that are not bioavailable
    Rancid Vegetable Oils

    Not sure where this came from. There is no such listing in any Isagenix ingredient for Rancid Vegetable Oils. Non-Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil is used in one and only one product – The Isagenix Slim Cake (Cookie).

    Gluten & Agave Syrup

    It is true you will find gluten in a single product, the Isagenix SlimCake (Cookie) along with Certified Organic Agave Syrup, also in the same single product. Agave nectar is simply a naturally occurring sweetener that is used instead of sugar.

    Not sure how you can say Gluten and Agave are common in Isagenix products when they are all found in only one product.

    Feel free to check out the product catalog that, in the back lists all products, their nutritional information and their ingredients. https://media01.isagenix.com/corporate/ww/pdfs/Catalog_English.pdf

    Soy
    Saying that soy is in Isagenix products is inaccurate. If you do a basic search for “soy” in our product catalog, you will find several hits for soy. If you take the time to read a little further, you’ll understand that the products contain “Soy Lecithin”

    Lecithin is found in many foods such as ice cream, milk shakes and chocolates. As a natural emulsifier, it helps to keep fats and water from separating to produce smoothness.

    Lecithin is also found naturally in foods and is especially high in egg yolks. The phospholipid is an integral component of cell membranes and is also synthesized to accompany excretion of bile and enzymes in the small intestine.

    Dietary lecithin is good for you because it’s completely metabolized and provides the main source of choline in the diet. Choline is a precursor for acetylcholine, a neurotransmitters in the brain, and is vital for proper metabolism of fats in the liver.

    For these reasons, you may see lecithin available as a supplement in natural health stores.

    Commercial lecithin is derived from soya and sunflower oils. Isagenix products use soy lecithin because of its ease of application. It is only used if ultra-purified to be free of proteins or contaminants.

    Note: Although the lecithin is derived from soya oil, it does not contribute any amount of soy protein or soy isoflavones (phytoestrogens). These are eliminated through purification of the lecithin and should not present a concern to those needing to avoid them.

    Lecithin is used in place of other emulsifiers—such as chemical emulsifiers—for its healthful nature in IsaLean Shake, IsaDelight and IsaFruits. Isagenix uses only lecithin derived from non-GMOsoybeans.

    Isolated Fructose
    The concept that fructose is toxic or unhealthy is inaccurate. There is a lot of hysteria surrounding fructose — a simple fruit sugar found in almost every natural food on the planet that has been unfairly targeted as the scapegoat for all of the extra pounds on America’s waistlines.

    According to the nutrition science experts, there is no evidence that overconsumption of a single nutrient, such as fructose from high-fructose corn syrup, has led people to gain more weight than other foods (1,2)

    Additionally, in 2009, a supplement in the Journal of Nutritionin 2009 called for a stop to the demonization of fructose and high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) (1). They wrote, “Evidence is presented that HFCS does not pose a unique dietary risk in healthy individuals or diabetics.”

    http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/139/6/1219S

    In fact, in the same paper, the author seeks to dispel other myths about fructose by pointing out the following facts:

    Fructose coexists with glucose in all common nutritive sweeteners including honey, fruits and vegetables, agave nectar, and regular table sugar (50 percent fructose, 50 percent glucose)
    The human body is well adapted to handling sugars in normal ranges
    Replacing all the fructose in manufactured foods with other nutritive sweeteners would not improve health or solve the obesity crisis
    There is also a list of good reasons for why people should continue to have fructose in their diets.

    Fructose is sweeter than glucose, so a balance of both helps food manufacturers use less sugar overall in foods.
    Since fructose is absorbed differently than glucose, it blunts a glycemic response, leading to lower insulin levels.
    Fructose makes things with naturally unpleasant flavors (like vitamins and minerals) taste better.
    Unlike non-caloric, artificial sweeteners, fructose helps to fuel the body with energy.
    As long as you’re not getting too much fructose, or any other added sugar, or using added sugars to replace nutrient-dense foods (2, 3), then there’s nothing to fear.

    The truth is that fructose is metabolized in the liver and is first used to replenish liver glycogen stores, which are in turn used to fuel the body during fasting. The average human liver has the capacity to store around 85 to 100 grams or more of liver glycogen.

    When fructose is consumed in a normal range as our hunter-gatherer ancestors did when they ate fruits and vegetables all year round – and as part of a reduced-calorie diet for building muscle and losing weight – it and its cousin sweeteners such as sucrose, glucose, honey, agave nectar, fruit juice concentrates, and sugar alcohols really aren’t so freaky after all.

    White JS. Supplement: The State of the Science on Dietary Sweeteners Containing Fructose. J Nutr, 139(6), 1219S-1227S, June 2009, http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/139/6/1219S .
    Fulgoni V. Supplement: High-Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS): Everything You Wanted to Know, but Were Afraid to Ask. Am J of Clin Nutr, 88(6), 1715S, December 2008, http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/88/6/1715S
    Thompson FE, McNeel TS, Dowling EC, Midthune D, Morrissette M, Zeruto CA. Interrelationships of added sugars intake, socioeconomic status, and race/ethnicity in adults in the United States: National Health Interview Survey, 2005. J Am Diet Assoc 2009;109:1376
    Drewnowski A, Specter SE. Poverty and obesity: the role of energy density and energy costs. Am J of Clin Nutr, 79(1), 6-16, January 2004.
    Fractionated Plam Kernel Oil
    Not sure why you consider Palm Kernel Oil unhealthy. Palm kernel oil is an edible plant oil derived from the kernel of the oil palm Elaeis guineensis, and is comparable to coconut oil. A cardio-friendly alternative to animal fat, palm kernel oil is free of dietary cholesterol, and there is no evidence that it increases production of cholesterol in the body (1). Palm kernel oil is stable at room temperature, does not require hydrogenation (the process behind trans-fat formation), and has a long shelf life.

    Fractionation is the process of dividing a substance into smaller components, usually to improve purity.

    Again, to say that this ingredient is common in Isagenix products is inaccurate. This ingredient is only found in the Fiber Snack bars and the IsaLean Bars.

    Agriculture and Consumer Protection. Small-scale palm oil processing in Africa. FAO Corporate Document Repository. Online: http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/005/y4355e/y4355e03.htm
    Corn
    Saying that Isagenix products contain corn is inaccurate. Again, a quick search for corn produces several hits, but if you take the time to read, you find it’s NOT CORN, the ingredient is CORN BRAN. Corn bran is a food product made from the tough outer layer of corn. Like the brans derived from other grain crops, it is very high in fiber, and it can be used in a wide variety of ways. Many commercial food producers use this substance as filler in their foods, and to reduce the caloric value of snack foods. It can also be used in home cooking to increase the fiber content of various foods and to add texture.

    Additives
    You list additives, but provide no specific additives or any explanation about why it is bad.

    Synthetic vitamins and minerals, not bioavailable
    You speak specifically about Calcium D Pantothenate. This is also referred to as vitamin B-5 or pantothenic acid, is an essential nutrient your body uses to generate energy by breaking down carbohydrates and fats. Adults should consume at least 5 mg of calcium D-pantothenate each day to maintain a healthy body, according to the University of Maryland Medical Center. If you have trouble getting enough of this B-5 vitamin from your diet, your doctor may recommend treatment with a calcium D-pantothenate supplement.

    Low Heat Non Fat Dry Milk
    The statement in your article suggesting that Nonfat dry milk (NFDM) is a denatured protein is inaccurate. The term denatured refers to the process of breaking down the branch chain amino acids and the structure of the protein is damaged or destroyed. This is not at all what Buttler Believer’s article is talking about.

    Natural Flavours
    Contrary to what some people may think, use of the term “natural flavors” on nutrition labels is not a deceitful tactic by food manufacturers to hide harmful or unappealing flavoring agents.

    The Code of Federal Regulations defines a natural flavor as “the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or similar plant material, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose significant function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional (1).” Artificial flavors are defined as those that do not meet these particular standards.

    So what does all of this actually mean? The Cliff’s Notes explanation is that natural flavors are found in nature (plant or animal material), while artificial flavors are not. Artificial flavors are chemicals not found in plant or animal material that are created in a lab.

    Thousands of natural volatile compounds make up the flavors and aromas of the things we eat. Even simple natural flavors like vanilla can be made up of hundreds of compounds, most of which have very strange sounding chemical names. For example, d-limonene is one of many natural volatile compounds that make citrus taste like citrus (2), and 3-methylbutanal, 3-methyl-l-butanol, and geranial are compounds that help make tomato taste like tomato (3). Listing all of these natural flavor compounds as their official names on a label would not only lead to more confusion, but also look a little scary.

    To be included in the ingredient list under the term natural flavors, the flavoring compound must not only give the item its specific taste and be found in nature, but its main purpose should be to give a food flavor rather than to contribute to the food’s nutritional value. Because sweeteners are considered primarily nutritional, they must be disclosed in the ingredient list and cannot be listed as natural flavors. In addition, colors and chemical preservatives (used to enhance the appearance of food and keep it from spoiling) cannot be listed as natural flavors.

    The federal regulations that define the term natural flavors and enforce its correct use ensure that it’s used appropriately by manufacturing companies, and not as a way to hide ingredients that might be considered unhealthy. By listing flavoring compounds as natural flavors, consumers are being told what they do (impart flavor), while also making labels appear simpler and less cluttered. In addition, using natural flavors on labels helps to prevent competing manufacturers from creating copy-cat versions of products.

    Isagenix always avoids artificial chemicals, flavors, and sweeteners in all of their products. Where the term “natural flavors” occurs, the purpose is to prevent consumers from being confused by a variety of complex sounding natural compounds.

    FDA Code of Federal Regulations Title 21:http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=501.22. Accessed Sept 30, 2013.
    Davidowski et al. The Extraction and Quantification of Limonene from Citrus Rinds. Perkin Elmer, 2009.
    Markovic et al. Aroma volatiles of tomatoes and tomato products. Flavour Fragr, 2007;22:395-400.
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